Thanks Weather_Man for the link. I think maybe the MSI m/b cause the price seems pretty good.
I never buy the latest and greatest. I refuse to pay the top dollar that these items attract.
I'm quite happy to wait 12 months or so , or wait until the product is about to disapear to snap up that bargin !
This is what this post is about. My current system's weak point is the ATI 9600xt AGP grapic card that I have and when I want to upgrade that I think I should buy a PCI-E type graphic card that I get then to reuse later when I upgrade again to the socket 939 format. I can then pass down my old components to my low end pc's that I have for the rest of my family.(common m/b socket etc)

This is democracy at work -- When I get an upgrade , there is a filter down affect , so everybody then gets a upgrade!!! .
This keeps the "Minister for Finance" (wife!) very happy. ;D(note - for happiness for all you must keep the tech details to a minimum so they don't feel under - upgraded!!!)--besides this then allows more money to be available for the flight simulator ( another story that consumes as much money as upgrading PC's!!)
But we wouldn't have it any other way cause this stuff is SO much FUN!!!!

cheers
chuck