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About : New Video card

PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 7:52 pm
by GunnerMan
Well I got the card installed... and everything set up, its got the drivers from the Nvidia site for it, im leaving it at stock clocks for now and I went into FS to test it out and for some reason my add on clouds were like extremly high detail and it was ovecast at Seattle with moderate rain and I had my settings maxed out and I was getting 45-50 FPS I thougt that was pretty good but I thought thes 2d cluds were stupid so I put all clear weather with a few clouds and my frames dropped like a rock! I was getting 25 FPS max on the runway of Seattle in the Citation X Deluxe and (i did restart FS to get better clouds) and the flight took forever to load, well as Gixer said 25 FPS is alot to get get in dense areas but it was not going smooth at all(well my crap ram could have play in that) now here is my real problem....when I go to higher alts the textures start to look kind of like uhh colord garnular sand type stuff like this:

From VC, the runway...also the sky...
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Can You Spot the Cessna? Look at the taxi ways...
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Another look (knowtice the sky; not related to the card but its another prob)

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If thats what FS looks like with an 540 dollar video card then well im goin back to Mr. MX because this just sucks... :( :-/ :'(

Re: About : New Video card

PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 8:18 pm
by Gunny04
Yea gunnerman I get the same thing on my Built  in MX as you know..... if it werent for the Texture blur I could run this computer on full settings no prob cept the lag! (minus anti aliasing) but ugh that blur kills my eyes! cheers, gunny

Re: About : New Video card

PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 8:23 am
by Gixer
Somthing is not right there!!

Possibly a driver issue, though you say you got the latest form the Nvidia site so that shouldn't be a problem.  Did you use Driver Cleaner 3 to get rid of old reminicents of old drivers?

Your drop in FPS was to be expected when you switch from 2d clouds to 3d clouds do not worry about that.  What you need now is to get that ram sorted and get your system setup right!

I would suggest a re-install of FS2004 possibly unless you backed up your original textures before putting in the new ones??  That problem in the sky I am guessing is either your addon textures or a driver problem.

What level do you have Mip-Mapping on? dont set it higher than 4.

If your monitor can do it 1600x1200res or use 1280x1024.  Set 4xAA and 8xAF.  There are a few other things you can play with in your graphics cards settings via the control panel, i.e. Image Sharpness (I notch it up a bit) and Digital Vibrance, both of these are on the Colour correction bit.

In the game under graphics on the Hardware tab is your card being picked up as a GF6800 Ultra?  If not go delete your FS9.cfg and re-start sim.  Do this first as when you do this you will have to reset your sim up.

Short of that I would wait until you get new ram.  Download all the latest drivers for your system.  Re-format (I always do when I do a major component change anyhow, just my preference) Once XP is installed install SP1 and all hotfixes.  Then go ahead and install your drivers, mobo/DX9c/Vid card/Sound etc etc.

Re: About : New Video card

PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 8:51 am
by Gixer
Here is what my KSEA looks like

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Re: About : New Video card

PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 12:02 pm
by GunnerMan
Well I will do what you said, and yes I did use driver cleaner but there were some files it could not fid to delete ??? Im shure my RAM is holding me back big time but well look at the bright side, RAM dosent cost 550 bucks...

Re: About : New Video card

PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 12:14 pm
by GunnerMan
Thanks sooo much Gixer!, I set my screen to the res you told me(the lower one) My LCD dosent support the smaller reses:(, already had my AA to 4x but my AF was at 2X so I put that to 8X, rased the sharpnes a bit and reduced MIP Quality to 4, now she looks great...now for getting these clouds fixed up... :o

Thanks again Gixer! I think the MIP Mapping was the culprit....

Re: About : New Video card

PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 12:39 pm
by Gixer
Yup, I bet it looked like the ground was alive too if you set it much higher than 4!  you get a sparkly type effect.

Re: About : New Video card

PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 3:01 pm
by GunnerMan
Yeah it was like a wierd liwuidy effect, why is this? Now I cant figure out how to uninstall FSSkyWorld :-/

Re: About : New Video card

PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 3:21 pm
by Gixer
Hopefully you backed up your texture folder before you installed the new clouds?

If not they will be on one of the disks, though I do not know which I am afraid.

Re: About : New Video card

PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 4:30 pm
by GunnerMan
So I would just need to replace th FS9 Weather folder?
One more question...should I enable Vertical Sync and force MIP Maps in the Nvidia display proprties...

Re: About : New Video card

PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 5:58 pm
by Gixer
No there is a folder called 'Texture' in your main FS9 folder.  This is where the cloud textures are as far as I am aware.

Force mip-map Trilinear.  Leave the v-sync application controlled (Though if you get ghosting due to your TFT then turn V-sync on all time)

Re: About : New Video card

PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 7:10 pm
by GunnerMan
Never seen ghosting so I will turn the MIP Mapa on... :P
I think I figured out my sky probs I need the patch for the program BUT Avsim is not cooperating >:(

Re: About : New Video card

PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 12:49 am
by Midnight_LS1
Uh-oh, this does not look good for the BFG 6800Ultra I was considering getting for my system which is not yet ready.

Re: About : New Video card

PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 1:03 am
by GunnerMan
Oh everything looks good! Dont get me wrong the clouds are totally a software related thing...get the Ultra you wont be diaspointed, I get some lag in cititis like Seattle but I think my RAM is the culprit of that..PC 2100 antique status... but on seattle theres a bit of lag but its hardly there  on max settings with 4x AA and 8x AA, very good and my other gammes look sweeeeet with absoluly lag less... ;D

Re: About : New Video card

PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 1:22 am
by Midnight_LS1
It's back on the list.

Looks like the video card and the CPU will be the most expensive out of a complete system.