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Comparing Processors

PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 8:05 am
by GreG
Please could someone give me an idea of how fast an AMD 64

Re: Comparing Processors

PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 10:49 am
by Dan
Have you tried toms hardwrae guide? Failing that im sure one of the techies here can sort you out!! lol...
Dan

Re: Comparing Processors

PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 11:32 am
by congo
It will be a fair bit better than the centrino, The 3000 will be only slightly faster than the 2800.

The mobile processors are popular for overclockers who pop them into "normal" PC's and take advantage of their low power and resulting lower temperatures when they overclock them to the hilt, often with water cooling solutions. In theory, the mobile CPU's should remain stable at higher overclock speeds, though I haven't tried it myself.

Currently, I run an AMD XP2800+ "Thorton core" CPU overclocked to perform like an XP3200+. It's now summer here and so far it's been fine on standard fan and heatsink.

Re: Comparing Processors

PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 1:10 pm
by Delta_
Centrinos don't compare to 64 processors, they are different leagues.  The 64 is far more faster than the Centrino.

Re: Comparing Processors

PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 9:04 am
by GreG
Thanks for that guys, all I really needed to know! ;D

What can the AMD 64 2800+ and 3000+ be compared to then?  I have absolutely no idea of the speed of the AMD 64 processors, or any AMD processors for that matter.

Cheers,
Greg

Re: Comparing Processors

PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 12:03 pm
by congo
AMD CPU's are named after the Pentium CPU performance equivalency. (AMD don't claim this, but that's the way it is.)

So, an AMD XP3000+ is roughly equivalent in performance to an Intel P4 3000 hertz, (3.0 gigahertz), CPU.

AMD 64 bit CPU's use 64 bit technology as opposed to 32 bit, the current computing standard.

I don't think their is much of an advantage in the CPU power between, say, a 32 bit AMD 2800+ or it's 64 bit counterpart. The AMD naming convention takes the relative difference between the two technologies into account when they name the CPU. In fact, the 64 bit version is actually slower in it's frequency than a 32 bit equivalent.

AMD had difficulty raising the performance of their CPU's by using raw speed increases to their CPU's because of  physical technological barriers. They simply hit a wall with the amount of layers of silicon they could use in their design. They instead used different technologies to improve the CPU's performance without having to ramp up the actual speed of the CPU.

Intel's CPU design was more readily adapted to raw speed increase and set the standard for CPU power by simply stating it's oscillation speed in hertz in it's naming convention.

Unfortunately for the end user, CPU naming is becoming more cryptic with the variety of CPU's now on offer. (A clear attempt to baffle us all with their technology!  ;) )

The end result of all this is that it takes a geek's dedication to sort the whole mess out so we can make a valid and wise purchase decision. The "industry" relies on the ignorance of the masses to "flog off" all the cheaper and nastier variants of their products.

Let the buyer beware.

Re: Comparing Processors

PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 1:17 pm
by Dan
I agree with Congo.... So does a 3800+ Run as fast as a P4 3.8Ghz? So, looking in the OC UK catalogue, I have found a 'AMD Athlon 64 3800 Newcastle 130nm (Socket 939)' and a 'Intel Pentium 4 570 "LGA775 Prescott" 3.8GHz (800FSB)'. The AMD 64 is

Re: Comparing Processors

PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 3:17 pm
by GreG
Thanks Congo.  Helped a lot.  But how much faster is a 64 processor than a 32 processor?

Greg

Re: Comparing Processors

PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 3:30 pm
by Gixer
Here is a bench of my CPU which is an AMD64 3500 not overclocked whilst doing this bench test.

Re: Comparing Processors

PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 3:37 am
by GreG
K thanks Gixer.

Do you know of any sites that show benchmarks?  Mainly of all different processors so you can see the real difference.

Greg

Re: Comparing Processors

PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 6:26 am
by Delta_
www.tomshardware.com is a good site to look at.

Re: Comparing Processors

PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 4:23 pm
by GreG
Thanks Hi-D.

Greg