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Is underpowered video card such a bad thing?

PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 3:04 pm
by pooty13901
Hi all,

Before I write my question, just let me say that I realize this is a dumb question in many respects.....So,

I was wondering what the thinking is on running a video card on less power than what is suggested by the manufacturer. My specs:

Compaq system
2.4Mhz
Radeon 9800Pro
768Mb RAM
40Gb Storage
FS9

The card is recommended to run on at least 300W. I have a PSU that says "Max. output 250watts".  
Although this seems like a dumb question, because really, if it says 300w, what kind of idot runs it on a 250w system ::) Me.  
But I have heard conflicting reports on whether this is really hampering the card's abilities. WIth all my settings maxed, I am getting 7-18FPS, sometimes quite choppy, when I have been told I should be getting around thirty. I also know that you have to tweak the system to get best results. I have done all those tweaks along with using FS-Autostart and it still slows down in high auto-gen areas.
So here is why I ask a seemingly dumb quetion. I have been told that if the card is underpowered, it would just shut down and not play at all. If it's really just a limitation of the card and not an underpowering problem, I don't want to spend $150 bucks on a solution that isn't going to add anything to my gameplay. Any input is appreciated.

Re: Is underpowered video card such a bad thing?

PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 4:46 pm
by Skittles
Do you think your video card is really using 250-300W??!!! No, the reason the manuf. recommend 300W is they are taking into consideration all the other equipment you may/may not have. I also have a 9800Pro, four hard drives, CDROM, and USBs out my ears. The 250 is distributed over all the equipment. I have about 26 USB devices. If my computer was powering them all, even my 300W PSU wouldn't be enough. 22 of the are self powered.

If you don't have an excessive amount of equipment installed, the 250 should continue to work fine.

However, maybe someone more a little more electrically/electronically qualified than myself could give a more precise answer.

Re: Is underpowered video card such a bad thing?

PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 9:13 pm
by Selbio
You don't have to spend another $150 to fix your problem. Do you have Compaq's version of windows XP? If so you have a load of thing you won't ever use. I have a presario S6500NX and it ran slower with all the stuff they install. I borrowed a friend's copy of windows xp and using my own key I installed windows xp and this was a big improvement. Another thing, have you downloaded the lastest drivers from ATI? I'd use the ones from ATI before I'd use hp's.
I have the same power supply you have. If your pc is working fine I wouldn;t worry about the PSu.

Put it this way, I had a gateway pc once with a 150w max power supply and I had two optical drives, two hard drives, two sticks of memory and a PNY Nvidia Geforce 4 TI 4200 which according to PNY was supposed to run on a power supply with a minimum of 350w and I never experienced a single problem with that pc. I have been posting lately asking for help on what to do with my power supply because they installed it upside down( it gets a lot hotter now) and on top of that it had a lot of cables damaged.

I'd say your problem is more like windows xp(hp/compa's version) rather than the power supply itself. before you decide to do a clean installation of windows xp make sure you have the appropriate drivers for your motherboard, sound card, modem, network card, and video card and any other device that you may have.

Good luck.

Re: Is underpowered video card such a bad thing?

PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 7:30 am
by congo
Well, I blew 2 power supplies last year, with only a few components and an open well ventilated case a 300w and a 350w one. I put a 450w in there and so far, so good.

It does depend on exactly what is drawing from the PSU.

Consider that a late model AMD CPU is going to draw off at least 60watts and take it from there......  you soon could run a deficit, especially with more powerful rigs and addon cards.

I'm not technically familiar with your video card, but it may have sensors which prevent it from reaching it's potential if the power supply isn't sufficient. My FX5900XT wont power up into 3D mode at all until the card senses that the extra power connector is attached for instance.

Couldn't you add a 450 or 500 watt PSU for around $30 ? ....... shop around

Re: Is underpowered video card such a bad thing?

PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 7:50 am
by pooty13901
Thanks all for the replies. I think it's right that I have enough power running around the system. I'm not running all that much off of it. I'll tweak around a little more.