Simviation Forums

I know very little about cards and have 2 options available to me. PNY GeForce 4 440 8x 64mb,PNY GeForce FX 5200 ultra 128mb. The specs look very similar,but I know one must be better than the other so any thoughts or ideas would be much appreciated:)
           
                          Navin R Johnson aka Gaspumper

Here's a quick comparison of the two. I have the 5200 standard and it's a very good card.

-Geforce FX5200 Approx $70-$100 US
Memory Bandwith: 10.4 GB/S
Grapics Core: 256bit
Fill Rate: 1.3 Billion Textles/Second  
Ram: 128MB DDR

-Geforce4 MX440 Approx $100-150 US
Memory Bandwith: 6.4 GB/S
Graphics Core: 256bit
Fill Rate: 1.1 Billion Textles/ Second
Ram: 64MB DDR

As you can see, there isn't much difference between the two. I'd go for the FX5200 because it's cheaper and is the the better of the two.

Here are some rough figures based on benchmarks done on machines with 2 ghz CPU's Using 3D Mark 2001.

The GF4 MX440 will get you about 4500 points

The FX5200 should weigh in around 7000 points.

A pretty big difference.

I use the 440 and Wendy uses the 5200........I tried the 5200 in my machine also, but I find the frame rates about the same, only the 5200 can display more detail in the background as it has twice the RAM........the 440 is what I have posted all my shots with.......check them out in "Graphis/Freeware and Payware"........

I recently "upgraded" from the 440 to the 5200 myself.
Has it's been said, my frames where about the same, with a slight increase on the 5200, but i now have none of my previous texture related issues, and fewer slowdowns, or at least less noticable ones, in heavily populated 3d enviroments.
I'd say overall graphics quality improved also.
I'd go with the FX5200 card if I were you.

go for an ATI 9200 or 9500. the 9500 is far superior to both of the nVidia cards and doesn't cost much more.

Geforce MX cards are for business computers. get the FX and I hate ATI  ::)

[quote]Geforce MX cards are for business computers. get the FX and I hate ATI

*sittinginfrontofhispcwithaveryangryexpressiononhisface*

a) ATI ain't expensive (look at the prices of nVidias 5900 series)

b)the drivers aren't unstable,they run very well.

are we aggrivating u Silent??  ;D, I love my GeForce 4 Ti4800, best graphics card I have ever had, didnt like the ATI Radeon 9700 that I sold

http://www6.tomshardware.com/graphic/20 ... de-12.html

Proof that the Geforce FX5800 and FX5900 are better than ATI in terms of benchmarks. Even the aging Ti 4200 out ranks most of ATI's 9000 series. In FS2004, I was getting 60fps over the Caribbean when I turned off the frame lock.

When I think about it, I had two bad experiances with ATI. When before I bought my K7S5A board, I was running Windows 98Se with a ATI Radeon PCI 32mb card on a old P2 233mhz system. It worked fine. When I upgraded to the new system, the card no longer worked at all. Later on before I bought my Geforce FX5200, I bought a Radeon 8500LE. I installed it under Windows XP with the latest drivers. I was getting very corrupted graphics with sub-Geforce2 frame rates. I've had no problems with my Nvidias. The current card I have is a Jaton 3DForce FX5200 128mb DDR 8X AGP.

are we aggrivating u Silent??  ;D, I love my GeForce 4 Ti4800, best graphics card I have ever had, didnt like the ATI Radeon 9700 that I sold

no,no,you're not aggrivating me,no,no. i'm just playing around with the thought of nuking nVidia's headquarters...*veryevilgrin*

why did you sell that 9700? are you crazy? *slap**slap*
do you know what you did? you downgraded! omg! i'd never do this! *slap* *slap*



don't take it to serious,i seem to overreact.  ;)

lol, I got more than i paid for it  ;D

ahaha there will always be 2 major arguments in the computing world......ati vs nvidia and intel vs amd i myself am a amd fan and nvidia hope this doesnt rise tention between us all its a public forum there might be kids on here

I bought a PNY FX5200. POS aleart. It just died. Do not buy a PNY FX 5200. Get a TI 4200 from newegg and overclock it. The FX 5200 comes with slow RAM, even slower GPU core, and has trouble with just about anything.

If you are going ot get a FX 5200, get the Proliant card. It has faster RAM, and a better GPU core clock.

You can find TI 4200's for $90 and overclock them. You'd basically be getting a TI 4600.

-Geforce FX5200 Approx $70-$100 US  
Memory Bandwith: 10.4 GB/S  
Grapics Core: 256bit  
Fill Rate: 1.3 Billion Textles/Second  
Ram: 128MB DDR  

-Geforce4 MX440 Approx $100-150 US
Memory Bandwith: 6.4 GB/S
Graphics Core: 256bit
Fill Rate: 1.1 Billion Textles/ Second
Ram: 64MB DDR

Append to the FX 5200: RAM: 4NS 400mhz DDR

Append to the MX440: RAM: 3.3NS 500mhz DDR

Those fill rates are burst fill rates. I definatly didn't get 10 gb/s on my FX 5200. =\ Out of those two, I'd take the MX 440. (I happen to be using one. :p)

Proof that the Geforce FX5800 and FX5900 are better than ATI in terms of benchmarks.

Download and run 3DMark 2000. Then, do the same with 3DMark 2001SE and 3DMark 2003. Now, rename each .exe application to something of your choice (like blather.exe). Rerun each of the benchmarks. You will notice a considerable drop in score.

ATi and NVidia cards are so different, you cannot readily compare them on equal grounds. ATi cards have excellent AA, whereas NVidia cards have excellent AF. I have an LCD, do I get both without having my video card render it. :p Just... Stay away from Matrox. XD