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Some upgrading questions

Postby BFMF » Wed Jun 25, 2003 11:19 pm

I'm looking at doing some upgrading to my computer and I need your help. I'm looking for a 17 inch monitor with a flat display, not a flat panell. What would you suggest me getting?

I'm also looking at the AMD Athlon XP line of chips, but how can I know if my EPOX 8KHA (KT266) MOBO will support the AthlonXP 2600+ or Athlon 2800+ chips?

I'm a little ignorant, so I need some help :-[
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Re: Some upgrading questions

Postby Selbio » Wed Jun 25, 2003 11:34 pm

Here you go bro,

http://web.epox.com/html/motherboard.as ... KHA&lang=1

You can upgrade to an AMD XP 2600+ 266mhz fsb which runs at 2.13ghz since that is what your motherboard supports, however you will not be able to run the 2800+ since it's a 333mhz FSB line of cpu.

Here is a link for the 2600+ 266mhz fsb

http://www.computerbrain.com/cbisys/ite ... all&class=

You should see a list of processor on there and the 2600+ it's like $130

PS. I have never ordered anything from this people before so you may want to find out more before you buy.

Also go to www.pricewatch.com for a list of hardware prices.

If you have anymore questions before you buy just let me know and I'll do my best to help ya.

Good Luck
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Re: Some upgrading questions

Postby BFMF » Thu Jun 26, 2003 12:17 am

Thanks Selbio.

I was kind of afraid that I would have to upgrade my mobo to get anything faster. It makes me mad how a top of the line, brand new system can be totally outdated within 2 years >:( >:(

What EPOX mobos would you suggest that has onboard Audio and supports a 333 mhz fsb? I need to decide if I want to upgrade my mobo now or later. Even if I can get an AthlonXP 2600+ that's compatible with the mobo I already have, I won't be able to upgrade again without buying a new one. And upgrading a mobo is a pain :-/
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Re: Some upgrading questions

Postby Selbio » Thu Jun 26, 2003 12:22 am

Here ya go, a list of Epox motherboards that are cheap and support 333 mhz fsb

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.a ... 14&order=1

However, I suggest the "Epox Motherboard for AMD Athlon/Athlon XP/Duron Processors, Model# EP-8RDA+"

The second one down the list.
Those motherboards with the
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Re: Some upgrading questions

Postby BFMF » Thu Jun 26, 2003 12:38 am

I've been using the VIA KT chipsets, what's the difference with the nForce2 chipset?
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Re: Some upgrading questions

Postby ATI_7500 » Thu Jun 26, 2003 5:33 am

i don't know if it's right but i've seen that you can use a FSB 333 CPU on the EP-8KHA, this means that andrew can upgrade his CPU to an Athlon 2800+.
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Re: Some upgrading questions

Postby Selbio » Thu Jun 26, 2003 9:43 am

i don't know if it's right but i've seen that you can use a FSB 333 CPU on the EP-8KHA, this means that andrew can upgrade his CPU to an Athlon 2800+.


Well if you click on the EPOX link you will see this:
-EP-8KHA
-Socket A motherboard

- AMD Athlon, Athlon XP, Duron
-266MHz Max FSB
-VIA Apollo KT266 Chipset
-DDR SDRAM PC2100

I've been using the VIA KT chipsets, what's the difference with the nForce2 chipset?


I've had VIA Kt400(this one I didn't keep long enough to be able to tell the difference but I'm sure it was fast enough), SIS745 chipset and when I went to the Nforce 2 Chipset I noticed better fps when playing fs2002 and all the other games.

I benchmarked my pc using 3dmark2001SE and I used to get 10100(or close) with the KT400 motherboard(Gigabyte), with the SIS 745(asus A7S333) I used to get about 9990-10050(or around that area) with the MSI 6570 K7N2 which is what I have at the moment I get 11500-11900(around there somwhere) see the difference? I'm not an overclocker so I run all my hardware at their default setting. I'ts also a matter of what you like. I liek those Nforce2 Platforms better than the others.

By the way if money isn't a problem then go here
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.a ... 14&order=1
and check the ASUS A7N8X Deluxe motherboard which the 8th down the list and it's on Sale too. A lot of motherboards out there got integrated sound but this one I hear that is awesome and it compares to a SB Live! 5.1

Andrew before you buy a new processor for you current motherboard make sure its FSB it supported by you motherboards fsb speed.
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Re: Some upgrading questions

Postby ATI_7500 » Fri Jun 27, 2003 5:02 am

okay,selbio,you can't put a 2600+ onto an EP-8KHA,but you can put it onto the "plus" version (my mainboard). i'm talking about the T-Bred CPUs.

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Re: Some upgrading questions

Postby BFMF » Fri Jun 27, 2003 10:01 am

So I DO have to upgrade my motherboard ??? :-/
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Re: Some upgrading questions

Postby Selbio » Fri Jun 27, 2003 1:45 pm

Well,

Honestly it looks like you do according to that chart. If your motherboard has a 266MHZ fsb and the 2600+ I told you about is also a 266mhz fsb they should work with each other. I had an older asus motherboard that was known to have problems with AMD CPU over 2100+, however; I put a 2400+ on there and it worked just fine and never gave me problems.

If I were you Andrew I'd upgrade the motherboard as well. jsut get cheap motherboard that supports 333 fsb. I got me one along with an AMD XP 2600+ and 512 Ram PC3200 and it performs well, I have no complaints so far. My next upgrade will be a Radeon 9700 PRO on NonPRO.
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BAD NEWS!

Postby BFMF » Sat Jun 28, 2003 12:11 am

Bad news you guys

As of today, I need a couple new set of brakes for both my rear tires on my car, so I guess it will be a little longer till I upgrade :(

But i'm still trying to figure out what to upgrade to ;D
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Re: Some upgrading questions

Postby Selbio » Sat Jun 28, 2003 9:05 pm

What are you system specs?

Have you ever
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Re: Some upgrading questions

Postby congo » Sun Jul 06, 2003 3:12 pm

The nForce2 chipset mainboards are THE board of choice for AMD CPU's at present.

Don't get stuck on Epox though, there are many fine
boards out there with features to suit everyone.

A very nice flatscreen CRT 17" monitor is a Samsung SyncMaster 753DFX.

Look here for details:

http://www.samsung.com.au/samsung.asp?cat=51&obj=109

:)

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I just upgraded an ageing Asus mainboard with an
XP2400+ CPU, (the fastest it supports).

I put 512mb of PC2100 DDR RAM on it, (it will take
up to PC2700 DDR)

I put in my old GeForce2 MX400 32mb DDR graphics
card, (no fan on this one).

Well, the darn thing is just pumping out the graphics
and gameplay is great without antialiasing and such extras.

I was duly impressed.
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