Missing Giga-Bytes...!

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Re: Missing Giga-Bytes...!

Postby NickN » Thu Nov 13, 2008 10:40 pm

Everyone seems to be going for Massive HDD's...(Which must take Weeks to de-frag!).... :o...!

F.... 8-)...!



300GB HD Velociraptor... full FSX install with addons.. 130GB used

25-35min defrag and thats a NAME defrag not the crap Windows defrag


I did not look at the chipset when I posted.. last time I saw the KT133 chipset was 2002

you need a computer Paul
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Re: Missing Giga-Bytes...!

Postby Fozzer » Fri Nov 14, 2008 4:03 am



300GB HD Velociraptor... full FSX install with addons.. 130GB used

25-35min defrag and thats a NAME defrag not the crap Windows defrag


I did not look at the chipset when I posted.. last time I saw the KT133 chipset was 2002

you need a computer Paul




...Tee-Hee... ;D...!

You would not believe how attached I get to my computer bundles of joy, updating them, bit by bit, over many years...

My latest? socket A motherboard purchase was the main reason for me to continue plugging in my trusty AMD, Socket A Athlon Thunderbird Processor, (I love the word "Thunderbird"!..), after using the equally trusty Pentium 486 DX60/100 Processors in the distant past*... ::)...!

The funny thing is, my present old fashioned, PC bundle, seem to run every bit of software I have accumulated over the past century 10+ years...(including my FS 2004)... [smiley=thumbsup.gif]...!

...my copy of FSX (purchased on release) is delayed for sometime in the distant future...and I'm in no particular hurry.... ;D...!

F.....so few pins on the underside of the Processor!... ;D... ;D... ;D...!

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Re: Missing Giga-Bytes...!

Postby Brett_Henderson » Fri Nov 14, 2008 7:05 am

Pentium 486 DX60/100


I remember building a gaming computer around something like that...  I went all out and splurged for a WHOPPING 64MB of EDO RAM  (0.05 GB for reference) and some sort of ridiculously expensive "Voodo"  video card (I think its claim to fame was 16MB of dedicated memory  ::) ) ... it had a blazing fast 56K modem and a new-fangled sound card (both plugged in ISA slots).. and the REALLY cool thing was this monstrous, external CD burner (they were too big to be internal at that time).

If I remember correctly, I had nearly $4,000 tied up in that computer .. and that was circa 1995 dollars.. A similar expenditure today would be more like $6,000..

Now look what we can get for  1/3 of that  :D

Computers have never been cheaper  8-)
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Re: Missing Giga-Bytes...!

Postby Fozzer » Fri Nov 14, 2008 7:29 am

Pentium 486 DX60/100


I remember building a gaming computer around something like that...
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Re: Missing Giga-Bytes...!

Postby Brett_Henderson » Fri Nov 14, 2008 8:03 am

Life is much too short for endlessly pratting about with Computers now!... ...!


Or.. more specifically.. Life is much too short to NOT prattle endlessly about a hobby or passion
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Re: Missing Giga-Bytes...!

Postby Alejandro Rhodes » Fri Nov 14, 2008 8:49 am

OK... according to my research.. that motherboard uses a Via KT133 chipset ?

If so, it probably won't see anything bigger than 127GB.. even with a new BIOS flash (which is probably riskier than it's worth)..

I still think partitioning is your best bet.. OR, just settle for the 120+ GB.. It's probably more than you'll use anyway..


nVidia Chip Set, Brett.... ;)...

Gigabyte: GA7 N400S-L.....Socket A, AGP

Present situation with all my Win XP SP2, FS 2004 files, etc, installed, all on one Partition.

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250 GB HDD.

F.... ;)...!



I'm too lazy to read all

But did any buddy think that could be a mistaken sticker in the HDD ? and instead to be 250Gb is actualy 160Gb , I've seen this in Western Digital and Maxtor (never In Samsung  :P 8-)

Just a thought
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Re: Missing Giga-Bytes...!

Postby T1MT1M » Fri Nov 14, 2008 9:32 am

OK... according to my research.. that motherboard uses a Via KT133 chipset ?

If so, it probably won't see anything bigger than 127GB.. even with a new BIOS flash (which is probably riskier than it's worth)..

I still think partitioning is your best bet.. OR, just settle for the 120+ GB.. It's probably more than you'll use anyway..


nVidia Chip Set, Brett.... ;)...

Gigabyte: GA7 N400S-L.....Socket A, AGP

Present situation with all my Win XP SP2, FS 2004 files, etc, installed, all on one Partition.

Image

250 GB HDD.

F.... ;)...!



I'm too lazy to read all

But did any buddy think that could be a mistaken sticker in the HDD ? and instead to be 250Gb is actualy 160Gb , I've seen this in Western Digital and Maxtor (never In Samsung
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Re: Missing Giga-Bytes...!

Postby Fozzer » Fri Nov 14, 2008 12:20 pm

[quote][quote]


I'm too lazy to read all

But did any buddy think that could be a mistaken sticker in the HDD ? and instead to be 250Gb is actualy 160Gb , I've seen this in Western Digital and Maxtor (never In Samsung
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Re: Missing Giga-Bytes...!

Postby 757200ba » Fri Nov 14, 2008 1:54 pm

Try to use fdisk before you format the HDD.Then format, after that probably it will not recognise the all drive but windows will.
It happend to me before, and thats what i have done, and i done it with a windows Millenium start up disk.
It worked with me.
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Re: Missing Giga-Bytes...!

Postby Fozzer » Sat Nov 15, 2008 3:58 am

Try to use fdisk before you format the HDD.Then format, after that probably it will not recognise the all drive but windows will.
It happened to me before, and thats what I have done, and I done it with a windows Millennium start up disk.
It worked with me.
;)


Very interesting!... [smiley=thumbsup.gif]..!

Its a bit too late for me now. Maybe someone else can follow up on that idea, for future, similar HDD problems?..;)...!

F.... 8-)...!

P.S. ...."fdisk".... :o....

...maybe there's still a place for good-old MSDOS!.... [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif]...!
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Re: Missing Giga-Bytes...!

Postby NickN » Sat Nov 15, 2008 7:30 am

KT133 southbridge does not support the larger HDD

it has nothing to do with using FDISK or anything else



As for 'need' and 'want' .. this is not the 80's or 90's where computers were a luxury.
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Re: Missing Giga-Bytes...!

Postby Fozzer » Sat Nov 15, 2008 8:33 am

KT133 southbridge does not support the larger HDD

it has nothing to do with using FDISK or anything else



As for 'need' and 'want' .. this is not the 80's or 90's where computers were a luxury.  in this day and age not having a decent, at least 2 year old fairly modern model, is on the same order of not having a phone in the house and having to walk several miles to the general store to make a phone call    ;D


I'm afraid life is too short to get involved in never ending Sim V arguments, and never ending Sim V discussions, over various recommended Hardware bits and pieces, odds and sods...

...better things to do...places to go...;)...!

Whatever I've got, mostly suits me fine for what I "need", day to day!

Whenever I need/feel like upgrading, I will perform the painless operation myself, as usual.

...in the meantime... [smiley=thumbsup.gif]...!

F.... ;)...!
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Re: Missing Giga-Bytes...!

Postby NickN » Sat Nov 15, 2008 9:36 am

For me its not endless

I dont skimp on parts and play price games.. I buy the right tools for the job the first time and use them without issue and never ending upgrades

The system I posted at the top of this forum cost close to 4000 dollars in March of 2007. Today it can be had for about 2500 or less and will run FSX if properly clocked on max scenery sliders with the exception of high traffic slider settings in combination with heavy weather under major hub conditions

That tower still runs today, 24/7 although I use it for other purposes now

There have not been any upgrades in that tower since I purchased it and I expect it will continue to serve me well for several more years


I do buy hardware about once a year because I test and also like to play, and, I can afford it however in the computer MSFS game.. anyone who plays the price game will end up in a never ending upgrade circle that will end up costing them more over a 2 year period than simply biting the bulet and buying the parts outright


It also comes down to priority and what it is you wish to do. If you spend more time in a car or motorcycle for recreation.. put the money in that instead



I mean.. come on Paul.. you bought 250GB of hard drive and can only use 128GB of it becasue of the prehistoric chipset?

.. thats a waste of money and time figuring it out right there. You dont have to be on a 2500 dollar system to make sure when you buy upgrades like that HDD they work without issues and at the same time even a cheaper C2D PCIe system would run your MSFS much better than that KT133
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Re: Missing Giga-Bytes...!

Postby T1MT1M » Mon Nov 17, 2008 4:54 am

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I'm too lazy to read all

But did any buddy think that could be a mistaken sticker in the HDD ? and instead to be 250Gb is actualy 160Gb , I've seen this in Western Digital and Maxtor (never In Samsung
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Re: Missing Giga-Bytes...!

Postby congo » Thu Nov 20, 2008 12:01 am

LOL!

You guys are prattling on and on about Paul's KT133 chipset when he has an NFORCE 2 (ultra 400?) CHIPSET as he clearly stated in the first page of this thread.

Paul, you really need to go into BIOS and turn LBA on. (Large Block Addressing)

Other than that, read Nick's first post in this thread over again carefully. I was surprised at your post that followed Nick's first response, you seemed to just give up hope when a solution seemed imminent .....
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