Last question (for now)..

[congo]

I wouldn't expect too much eye candy in there, it's pretty basic scenery, it's fun though.

I'm not sure if there is a workaround or a way to force 85hz when FS9 loads. It seems odd that you only see it when you pull down a menu. 60hz isn't very pleasant at all.

The flat panel LCD's are made with 3 and 4ms refresh now. I guess it depends on how fussy you are, but I found 8ms was not near fast enough for my combat sims. I was getting quite blurry images of aircraft in fast motion such as head on passes and such. You couldn't read the name tags.

I haven't seen a 3 or 4ms LCD yet, but I would imagine they would be quite ok.

If you want me to show you the right way to overclock that cpu, pm me and I'll run you through it. The bios is basically the same as mine except for the SLI options. It only requires an understanding of the different buses, their relationships and limitations.

There is a version of Clockgen which allows you to quickly alter the CPU multiplier, CPU voltage, HTT and memory speeds from the desktop. I can send you that if you ever want it. The newer version is aweful the last time I tried it.

The HT multiplier needs to be set manually in bios for controlled results, HT=x4 for up to 260mhz HTT speed. (2.86ghz cpu - which is plenty! ). The BIOS cpu voltage setting is biased on the low side, in other words, when set to 1.4 volts, it produces 1.42 volts. You'll have to check that first before messing with cpu voltage. My 3700+ does not need a voltage increase until I push over 2.6ghz, but that is mine. The reason I mention this is because the cpu voltage is the only factor that can possibly cause damage if done incorrectly. Even so, the built in thermal protection is supposed to kick in and shut down the system if it reaches dangerous temps. In any event, the BIOS limits your choice of overvoltage so you can't fry the cpu quickly, a nice safety feature, but one that will have the most extreme overclockers moving to a DFI board.

Under hardware monitoring or PC health or whatever it is in BIOS, turn Qfan on and set the temp to the lowest possible, I think it's 51*C. This will significantly reduce fan noise and is the best fan speed controller as it is based in BIOS and quite effective. Don't run AMD's cool and Quiet unless you understand it. C and Q adjusts all kinds of parameters automatically so you don't know what's going on.

When temperature monitoring voltage and speed changes, you need to turn off Qfan in bios so you don't get scewed results as the fan kicks in and out.

The only tools you need are Everest and Clockgen. Everest does accurate monitoring and fast basic benchmarking for rapid analysis while Clockgen makes voltage and speed changes

[Brett_Henderson]

I've been boning up on this stuff, so it's not as intimidating  ::)

There is a version of Clockgen which allows you to quickly alter the CPU multiplier, CPU voltage, HTT and memory speeds from the desktop. I can send you that if you ever want it. The newer version is aweful the last time I tried it.

Now see ?  To me, that's just incredible. Being able to adjust that stuff from the desktop is exciting. I'll PM you with my email and take you up on the assisance. Thanks so much.

As for the Canyons ?  OH MY !  It's like a playground. I couldn't help but think that it would be fun to get a couple people together, online... and play hide-n-seek. I took my 210 way up above it all.. and then wide circled down just to scope it out.  Talk about a lesson in depth perception !  I picked out a sliver "island" mesa to land on and was thinking, "ok , it's plenty big enough, just don't fall off the edge".. GEEZ.. as I got closer, the whole scope of this scenery becomes apparent. I coulda done a touch-n-go in a 747 and still landed AGAIN.. It took me 5 minutes to taxi to the edge in the 210.. and what fun THAT 2 foot take-off roll was  ..LOL..

[congo]

Glad you liked it