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Re: Graphics card upgrade didn't do much

Postby ChrisM » Tue Jun 14, 2005 1:45 am

Hitting Delete does not do anything ??? :P  Rebooted and tried it about three times and still nothing.  And as for the 533 front side bus I don't know?   I have d/l FS Autostart and am going to install it now ;)
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Re: Graphics card upgrade didn't do much

Postby congo » Tue Jun 14, 2005 4:41 am

Hi ChrisM,

Don't despair, you haven't wasted your money on buying that new card, it's just not configured correctly or maybe the fs9.cfg file is messed up like Jared implied, though your GRAPHICS CARD INFORMATION
shows that it's detected correctly.

What we actually need to help you here is your "chipset" info which we get by googling up your mainboard details. In order to do that we need your mainboard model number and revision if  possible, and if you provide the correct info, we can go further.

The "delete" key must be pressed immediately after the RAM count appears on  the boot screen to enter BIOS settings, and indeed, it may not even be the delete key, as some boards use different keys to enter bios settings. Consult your manual or download one if you need it to find out what keypress to use.

Sometimes boot screens are hidden with a bios option which enables a splash screen logo instead, if you get to bios, it's a good idea to turn that option off so you can see what's going on at bootup. Boot Logo screens are pretty effective at keeping you in the dark about your system specs and configuration.

Basically, once in the bios settings (or CMOS settings), you want to set your AGP aperature or "window", set your agp multiplier to 8x if your mainboard supports it, and enable any other support in there your AGP graphics card needs.

Your upgrade should be producing profound improvements in your graphics display, once you see the effects of it, you will be very happy indeed.   ;)
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Re: Graphics card upgrade didn't do much

Postby rabu » Tue Jun 14, 2005 10:39 am

[quote]I think this is down to your systems configuration, ChrisM, run 3D Mark 03 from here http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=576

run the benchmark, and compare your results to mine, which you will find here http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=3849223

Upload your results to Futuremarks "Online results browser", then I can compare my system to yours, it may well give me a clue as to your problem.

Your current spec certainly should run FS9 beautifully. ;)

Paul.

This Thread may be of interest to you, it worked for me..... http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb/ ... 1114917120
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Re: Graphics card upgrade didn't do much

Postby rabu » Tue Jun 14, 2005 10:49 am

Thanks everyone for your help :)

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And i have the latest drivers for this card and motherboard ;)


Chris: Earlier you posted you have: "Video BIOS version = 5.43.02.04 "  That is the version that came with my 6600 GT install disk too, but it is not the latest version for the Nvidia cards. I have v66.93 dl'd and installed now, and there is also a newer version, 71.89 available. I think this might make a difference and should be updated. Just be sure to uninstall your currant drivers before installing new ones.
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Re: Graphics card upgrade didn't do much

Postby ChrisM » Wed Jun 15, 2005 1:38 am

I got into bios, and the mobo doesn't support 8X, but I changed the memory aperature 128MB and fiddled with some other settings.
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Re: Graphics card upgrade didn't do much

Postby rabu » Wed Jun 15, 2005 8:29 am

[quote]I got into bios, and the mobo doesn't support 8X, but I changed the memory aperature 128MB and fiddled with some other settings.
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Re: Graphics card upgrade didn't do much

Postby 4_Series_Scania » Wed Jun 15, 2005 2:51 pm


What about updating your Nvidia drivers? (am I being ignored?)


Ignored? here? Never !  :-*


Update by all means! I use 77.30's and very good they are.

Also, I have my AGP appeture set to 256MB, if its 128MB I get lock ups for some weird reason.  ::) :-/


Thanks for the links to the bench mark aps, etc. ... very interesting stuff. Question, why are you using the 3D Mark 03 instead of the 3D Mark 05?





Because, 3D Mark 05 will stress a 6800Ultra, never mind my card! - Watching a benchmark program run at 0 - 9 fps isn't fun, 3D Mark 05 is really for the next generation 7800 series cards, which incidentally, launch in the UK in 7 days. ;)

Also, the download was massive and I already have 03 installed!  ;D
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Re: Graphics card upgrade didn't do much

Postby rabu » Wed Jun 15, 2005 3:28 pm

Another tool I found that makes a big difference in performance is the PCI Latency Tool

You can get it here with more info on it: http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=951
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Re: Graphics card upgrade didn't do much

Postby ChrisM » Thu Jun 16, 2005 1:12 am


What about updating your Nvidia drivers? (am I being ignored?)


No your not being ignored, sorry ;D  I really did update my drivers as well, i just forgot to put that in.

Thanks everyone for your helpful replies :D ;D

BTW: i downloaded the PCI latency tool a while ago, thax anyway ;)
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Re: Graphics card upgrade didn't do much

Postby rabu » Thu Jun 16, 2005 10:17 am

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No your not being ignored, sorry ;D
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Re: Graphics card upgrade didn't do much

Postby rabu » Thu Jun 16, 2005 10:48 am

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Ignored? here? Never !
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Re: Graphics card upgrade didn't do much

Postby congo » Fri Jun 17, 2005 12:57 am

Some are beta, some are approved, just sus out the details, sometimes you need to read the readmes or follow up the threads link about them to get more details.
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Re: Graphics card upgrade didn't do much

Postby rabu » Fri Jun 17, 2005 10:08 am

Some are beta, some are approved, just sus out the details, sometimes you need to read the readmes or follow up the threads link about them to get more details.


Thanks, I did find the notes about the newer one being used by one of the games that just came out, etc. Guess I'll go ahead and upgrade.

By the way... the main demo in the 3d Mark 03 test, of the WWII bombers and fighters, is pretty fantastic, would love to see a game with that kind of realism; probably isn't too far away.
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Re: Graphics card upgrade didn't do much

Postby congo » Sat Jun 18, 2005 7:59 pm


Thanks, I did find the notes about the newer one being used by one of the games that just came out, etc. Guess I'll go ahead and upgrade.


Video Driver upgrading is a facet of geekdom that is highly over-rated. A video driver upgrade rarely ever provides any noticeable performance advantage. (an increase in benchmark scores from 14600 to 14700 for example, won't be detected by your brain). In fact, you can screw things up doing it, and often you'll measure a decrease in performance with new drivers.

IF you buy a new game and it has display problems, then a driver upgrade should be tried if other settings havent worked.
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By the way... the main demo in the 3d Mark 03 test, of the WWII bombers and fighters, is pretty fantastic, would love to see a game with that kind of realism; probably isn't too far away.
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