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Re: xp sp2

Postby creakin » Sun Feb 27, 2005 2:21 pm

seems like I opened a big can of worms with this question didnt I...........

I always thought MS was complicated but this takes the biscuit.........

Thanks to all who have offered their advice and I will endeavour to solve my querrie in due course.........

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Re: xp sp2

Postby congo » Sun Feb 27, 2005 2:29 pm

Creakin,

Didn't you read my post?

MS is only complicated for the uninformed, just download the correct file.
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Re: xp sp2

Postby FridayChild » Mon Feb 28, 2005 3:50 am

I think the question was a more general one: where does the "automatic updates" function (that existed prior to SP2) put the files it downloads? So that one can - say - copy them to another computer without having to download them again?
The downloaded files are the very same patches that are made available through the Windows Update site; and just like those, they are presented for download/downloaded only if applicable to the specific system (i.e. the operating system version matches and the patch is not yet installed). Provided that these specifics are the same, the patches can be applied to multiple systems.
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Re: xp sp2

Postby congo » Wed Mar 02, 2005 4:59 am

If they are the "very same patches", then why are the filesizes on auto-updates always varying on different PC's and on the same PC at different stages?

Even the download site will examine your system with an activex control so that it knows what files to give you and what you already have.

I'm not a very trusting soul when it comes to an automated system controlling my PC, so I decided long ago to circumvent that external control, look after my own PC, and get the proper developers (professionals) updates.   ;)
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Re: xp sp2

Postby FridayChild » Thu Mar 03, 2005 3:29 am

They are the same packages as those delivered "manually" via Windows Update. Automatic updates are just another way of delivering the same stuff without having the user to browse to the WU site.
It's convenient, but I wouldn't let it blindly install the patches, not even download them; it's enough to get notified of their availability. In this I agree with you.
That said, both Windows Update and Automatic updates scan your PC and determine what's needed and what's not. But this is done - as far as I know and unless I'm mistaken - on a "patch needed/patch not needed" basis, which means that the single patches are not repackaged depending on the specific system configuration.
If - say - MS releases a patch that replaces 10 original system files, the patch is completely downloaded if WU or AU detect that it's not already installed as a whole on a specific system. This means that the patch is downloaded in its entirety even if on the specific system some of the files it contains are already up to date. So it can be safely copied and installed on any other system that needs it without downloading it again.
Maybe that with AU the various patches are downloaded in a single package, and that's why size differs from system to system?
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Re: xp sp2

Postby congo » Thu Mar 03, 2005 9:21 am

Well, I guess that clears up my misguided theories. Thanks!  :)
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Re: xp sp2

Postby creakin » Sun Mar 06, 2005 12:29 pm

hi to everyone who has been reading my string...........

I just thought I'd update everyone.......

I was having other problems on my pc so I decided to do a clean install. I then downloaded winxp sp2 (266mb download) and installed it - up to now everything is running ok  :) ;) ;D :o. I've not put fs9 back on yet but will do so shortly. I'll report back any problems I encounter...........

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Re: xp sp2

Postby creakin » Tue Mar 08, 2005 2:20 pm

;D ;)

Hi to all..........

Just thought Id update this thread.......SP2 now installed and everything working fine(up to now). I decided not to enable auto updates, and to download the full 266meg sp2....

Just as a by the by......I have just doubled my ram to 1gb......and fs9 runs like a dream.........

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Re: xp sp2

Postby chomp_rock » Tue Mar 08, 2005 10:12 pm

I love SP2, it was particularly effective in the popup blocking department. Properly configured it will make your machine a very useable one. I installed it before and it buggered up my PC but on a fresh XP install it worked like a dream! BTW, make sure you download the MS antispyware tool, it is the best!
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