Athalon vs. Intel

[Delta_]

That is truly mad,
they are about

[4_Series_Scania]

I had an utterly naff 1.7 Celeron, it ran most things well except CFS3

[Ivan]

Tech rant ahead...

Pentium is faster memory wise
AMD is faster in floating point

AMD Athlon is nearly the same as the famous DEC Alpha if you talk about bus protocol. There is a certain AMD-built server chipset that can be set to DEC Alpha mode, just by changing the processor socket (not a user mod)

[Dan]

Tech rant ahead...

Was that it? Was that the rant? I expected more than that...
Dan G
Wales, Uk

[4_Series_Scania]

Was that it? Was that the rant? I expected more than that...
Dan G
Wales, Uk

[richardd43]

Buy an AMD 2500+ Barton and set the FSB at 200. You effectively have a AMD 3200 for half the price

[boo_a_carab]

To me it's odd that Intel is the most advertised and sought after processor and yet studies show that AMD with quanti-speed architecture is actually much faster.
32 bit and 64 bit. 64 bit requires a whole different setup than what I have. I am happy with my my AMD processor although I need to up it a little to enjoy the full possibilities of FS 04.

P.S. This is not a flame

[daveyboy]

Has anyone out there actually run FS2004 on an AMD64?

My understanding is that the AMD64 would be running in its 32-bit compatibility mode (since Win and FS2004 are 32-bit apps), so you wouldn't see any increase in performance over a 32-bit Athlon processor running at the same clock speed. (If you see what I mean! )
In fact, I saw some benchmarks carried out on the new 64-bit chip that suggest it might even be *slower* when running 32-bit applications.

If that's the case, then anyone wishing to use their machine purely for fs2004 might do better to go for a cheaper (32-bit) Athlon or Pentium running at the same clock speed, and spend the extra cash on RAM or a better video card.

I'm currently weighing up the 64-bit/32-bit question for a new PC, so any ideas/opinions/abuse would be gratefully received...

[Dan]

/abuse

 ;) LMAO
Dan

[bm]

Hi Daveyboy, Im afraid I don't I don't know much about computers (so don't listen!) but I have a new machine on the way (see below).

I am slightly regretting my decision not to go for the AMD64 now. I think the Pentium 4 3.2Ghz is the best short term solution (benchmarks etc prove this) but the world will be moving on to 64bit proccessors. Who can tell whether the game developement people with discard the 32bit stuff sooner or later. Hopefully it will be later from my point of view!*

*I knew I shouldn't have bought this months computer shopper (Febuary in January - the world is mad!) but I found the world of computers quite interesting! The sooner this new one arrives I can stop worrying!

[Dan]

64bit - drool

[4_Series_Scania]

Hi Daveyboy, Im afraid I don't I don't know much about computers (so don't listen!) but I have a new machine on the way (see below).

I am slightly regretting my decision not to go for the AMD64 now. I think the Pentium 4 3.2Ghz is the best short term solution (benchmarks etc prove this) but the world will be moving on to 64bit proccessors. Who can tell whether the game developement people with discard the 32bit stuff sooner or later. Hopefully it will be later from my point of view!*

*I knew I shouldn't have bought this months computer shopper (Febuary in January - the world is mad!) but I found the world of computers quite interesting! The sooner this new one arrives I can stop worrying!

I think your fears are somewhat unjustified birdman,

Cast your mind back, remember the many people who rushed out to buy the then new Sct423 Pentium 4's? within months of the new platform's launch Intel went and re-designed the chip, onto a Sct 478 platform and overnight all the "new" p4's were utterly obsolete!

My advice with any new Processor range is to wait and see what revisions (i.e. bug/glitch fixes) they iron out first, wait for the new chip to settle on something representing a standard spec, then perhaps take the plunge.
Not forgetting, in this time of waiting and seeing, the price will keep falling not to mention the sound of Intel's 64Bit p5 in the distance,will be getting very loud by then .

[bm]

Im afraid I can't cast my mind back! I am completely new to all this computer stuff! I only took an interest when this computer started messing around! I had no Idea a month or two ago what all the bits were inside! (you get the picture!)!!! (and that you could get a slow motherboard!!!)

I am getting over my goosebumps now. I realize what I read was someone from AMD scaring everybody into getting an 64bit CPU with there new computer! And he obviosly has no motive other then to direct people to do the right thing

Oh well, we'll see!

[4_Series_Scania]

I realize what I read was someone from AMD scaring everybody into getting an 64bit CPU with there new computer! And he obviosly has no motive other then to direct people to do the right thing

Oh well, we'll see!

Welcome to the honest & truthful world of PC marketing, I advise you leave any morals or principles of fair play here at the door.

[congo]

  Give it to 'em Scania!  ;D