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Re: First Custom FSX build

Postby G1000Pilot » Sat May 30, 2009 5:53 pm

ok great!

also, i would like to review my bios settings once defrags are done. I will let you know when all the tuning and what not is done.
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Re: First Custom FSX build

Postby NickN » Sat May 30, 2009 6:23 pm

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Re: First Custom FSX build

Postby G1000Pilot » Sat May 30, 2009 11:58 pm

Nick,

After install it says "Scenery.cfg file error" "local scenery directory (addon scenery/Scenery) in scenery area.115 not found. click ok to continue."

Thoughts?



acceleration installed? or just SP2?

I have seen this before.. somethin wipes out the RENO area (115) in FSX but I never did find out what caused it.. is this a fresh FSX install with no other addons? Nothing past FSX installed or uninstalled?

I always suspected it was some freaking addon scenery or aircraft from the internet that was doing this but its so rare to see I have never found the cause.


That may be a problem.. let me know if you have acceleration because the reno area is replaced by it




You do not tune the sim till after the defrags and that does not happen till everything is installed

You can do some basics in the FSX.cfg.. and setup for FSX

see the FSX.cfg section of the tuning thread for the exact lines

Texture_Bandwidth set to 80
Wide screen.. if you have one set it to TRUE if not leave it false

Disable preload =1 <--- added under the MAIN section

we will look at bufferpools later.. dont add that yet.. save and close the FSX.cfg

Open FSX..


Scroll down till you see the images of the FSX settings... set yours up exactly as I posted and make sure everything is the same, except set your AL and GA traffic to 30 (both), set cars to 8 and set autogen level to VERY DENSE.. everything else exactly, including the checkboxes.


close FSX



we should chat about the bufferpools too!
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Re: First Custom FSX build

Postby G1000Pilot » Sun May 31, 2009 12:14 am

I have also left off AA in FSX. Let me know if I should turn this on since i have dx10
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Re: First Custom FSX build

Postby NickN » Sun May 31, 2009 11:55 am

I know you have DX10.. but you will not be using DX10 enabled in FSX

Wanny know why?

1. Nhancer does not work with DX10
2. DX10 Vsync is broken
3. DX10 AA is enabled through FSX graphic settings only and is not the full AA the video card can do
4. DX10 is a preview only and there are bugs such as disappearing taxi guides, flickering taxiways, other annoying problems not to mention even more problems with some addons than SP2

You will leave the DX10 preview box in FSX unchecked and will be setting up FSX in DX9 mode only. If after all is said and done you wish to run DX10 mode then you will enable AA in FSX, set filtering to Anisotropic and there will be no Nhancer control

Bufferpoools is something we work with last during tuning. Typically for a 1GB card on a system that shows no issues with sound crackle under hiigh autogen slider use the value will be somewhere between 100000000 and 200000000 but that is not always the case. That is tested flying over large amounts of autogen trees and is something we tune after everything else has been tuned

In some cases its not used at all
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Re: First Custom FSX build

Postby G1000Pilot » Sun May 31, 2009 12:36 pm

ok sounds good. I have been doing some test flights in the default 747 out of KSEA....... all settings are as you recommended with FPS locked at 28. It runs SMOOTH!

Captain Sim 757 will need to Overclock, it is pretty good; however, it is a little slow on the ground. I am going to go in the the settings and tell it not to have the first class cabin and all that. This model is extremely realistic though, I am looking forward to getting it put together.

DX 10 makes sense, we will stay with 9!

After downloading the test software for the OC what do i do? My bios probaly needs to be tweaked a bit right? I do have the ASUS board so i think a lot of the stuff can be done in windows.

p.s. GEX is amazing! The game is on a whole new paradigm with the level of detail on the ground now.
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Re: First Custom FSX build

Postby NickN » Sun May 31, 2009 1:22 pm

ok sounds good. I have been doing some test flights in the default 747 out of KSEA....... all settings are as you recommended with FPS locked at 28. It runs SMOOTH!

Captain Sim 757 will need to Overclock, it is pretty good; however, it is a little slow on the ground. I am going to go in the the settings and tell it not to have the first class cabin and all that. This model is extremely realistic though, I am looking forward to getting it put together.

DX 10 makes sense, we will stay with 9!

After downloading the test software for the OC what do i do? My bios probaly needs to be tweaked a bit right? I do have the ASUS board so i think a lot of the stuff can be done in windows.

p.s. GEX is amazing! The game is on a whole new paradigm with the level of detail on the ground now.


Are you telling me you are ready to clock now?

If so I can post the BIOS values and the process to verify


If you think GEX USCAN is good.. wait till you see Europe. We have raised the bar on texture design with it 10 fold
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Re: First Custom FSX build

Postby G1000Pilot » Sun May 31, 2009 1:28 pm

It is clocking time! I cannot wait to see the Europe Version! For the price it seriously raises the sim to a new level. I will be sure to post screenshots after the clock is done! It looks way to real!

I will stay tuned for Bios and the rest of the clocking instructions. If you have any tips for the ASUS Turbo V software and all that I would appreciate it.

Also, what do you keep your FPS limited to? I would rather just set this and forget it if possible.
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Re: First Custom FSX build

Postby NickN » Sun May 31, 2009 2:23 pm

FPS locked or unlimited can end up changed mid-flight. For you I would say lock it at 28 but be aware there can be places like a busy hub setting it to UNLIMITED may be better and you may need to drop Scenery Complexity a notch if its a really busy hub in a large city.. that is a call you need to make as you test


Alright.. Clocking i7 is the easiest processor to deal with. Unlike clocking in the past where there were about 10 variables that had to be addressed with i7 there is essentially 1 base set of values with (usually) 2 of them being variables in a stable clock. Those are CPU Voltage and QPI/DRAM Voltage. The user must find the highest stable speed with the lowest CPU Voltage which remains under 80c in temp in the 1hr OCCT stress test. That is problematical to

1. the heat sink and its installation
2. the towers ability to allow the right airflow
3. the ambient temp environment where the tower is located

Even with a perfect install and airflow design, all three present variables over time with the buildup of dust and changes in the environment.

So.. to clock i7 we start with a list of BIOS settings that should be the same for any clocking situation and then you must find the lowest stable CPU Voltage at the highest CPU speed.. 4GHz being the top end.

With a i7 920/940 CPU speed is increased by using the setting BCLOCK because the CPU multiplier is locked (with the exception of 2 options).

BCLOCK base is 133

The multiplier or CPU RATIO for 940 will be set to 20x

BCLOCK 133 x CPU RATIO 20 = 2660

When we clock, we raise BCLOCK so in example, for a 3.8GHz clock we run:

BCLOCK 190 x CPU RATIO 20 = 3800

for 4GHz it would be

BCLOCK 200 x CPU RATIO 20 = 4000

Simple?
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Re: First Custom FSX build

Postby NickN » Sun May 31, 2009 2:33 pm

If you destroy your processor and system the secretary will disembow any knowledge of your actions...

that was just a joke..   you cant hurt the proc unless you exceed 100c  ;)
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Re: First Custom FSX build

Postby G1000Pilot » Sun May 31, 2009 2:36 pm

haha copy that!

So when you say i adjust the voltage/cpu speed that is after it passes the 1hour test right? Then I just creep the voltage down? This should be really easy on the Asus board since I do not have to reboot into bios!

This will be tonight's project
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Re: First Custom FSX build

Postby NickN » Sun May 31, 2009 2:54 pm

yes.. you can.. but set the HARD values in the BIOS based on the settings above after you find them

I typically do not use the Windows tool but then again I usually nail it in 2-3 rounds
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Re: First Custom FSX build

Postby G1000Pilot » Sun May 31, 2009 11:21 pm

Nick,

It will not let me boot. My UCLK and DRAM are set values that do not match exactly what you told me to put in. It is 1534 and 3247 i believe. I just get a blank black screen, restart it says OC failure and tells me to go back and change settings.
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Re: First Custom FSX build

Postby NickN » Mon Jun 01, 2009 9:45 am

Then something is not set right because the values I gave you are rock solid for running i7.

Just so I understand what you posted.. are you saying that you were able to make ALL the other settings changes except UCLK and DRAM?

All the advanced CPU settings were made as well as all the other timings and voltages posted?
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Re: First Custom FSX build

Postby G1000Pilot » Mon Jun 01, 2009 10:23 am

correct, the only thing was the UCLK/DRAM where the default values that I could select were not the exact numbers.

Looking back on the CPU mult of "20X" I put in 20 and left out the X. Other than that I went through it three times. I can try again tonight! I am sure it is something on my end that I am not putting in right.
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