CFS3 Display error?

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CFS3 Display error?

Postby bm » Sun Feb 01, 2004 5:15 pm

Hi all, Its been a long time since I have come onto this forum but with my new computer I have had a go with CFS3 and...... I love it!

It runs amazingly, I haven't seen a single frame under 25 and it rarely goes beneath 30. This is with all settings at 5, max AA, AF you name it! (+ AV and stuff running!) Its got a great meaty feel to it generally so im glad to be back!

I do however have a problem :(, (system stats in sig).

On the ground there is a level of colour (blue, green, pink etc) which appears in a sort of mist over the ground in the distance. It fades away as you fly towards it.

Here's a screenshot:
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Has anybody suggestions? Any thoughts would be gratefully recieved.

It doesn't bother me particullarly but it detracts from the realism slightly to have a pink cloud floating over the ground! ;)
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Re: CFS3 Display error?

Postby AnGeL_MaKeR » Sun Feb 01, 2004 5:42 pm

You can check out my system specs at bottom, but I had the same prob for a while but the latest set of Nvidia drivers cleared that up.  The set before the last that came out is the set that I had a prob with... it did the same thing with me... pink hazes in the distance.  Even though you're running an ATI card, maybe different drivers will fix you up.
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Re: CFS3 Display error?

Postby Tomtomcat » Sun Feb 01, 2004 8:23 pm

Hi,
I had the same problem with a ATI 9700,
I tried different drivers and various settings
in the cfs3config.exe and somehow it dissappeared.
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Re: CFS3 Display error?

Postby bm » Mon Feb 02, 2004 4:12 am

Thanks for your replies, I'll look into this config file thing and see what changing the settings does. I don't really want to change my drivers (latest 4.1 cats) as everything is running great at the moment.

Thanks again!
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Re: CFS3 Display error?

Postby 4_Series_Scania » Mon Feb 02, 2004 10:52 am

Birdman, remember before you ordered your machine, I made a referance to Ati's famous driver issues?


Well, I tried to warn you......  ;)


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Re: CFS3 Display error?

Postby nickle » Mon Feb 02, 2004 8:51 pm

Birdman: Your graphics card is ????

4_Series: "and all that crap".
You got that right!
However, whether the problem is ATI drivers or MS bungling isn't clear.

TomTomcat:
composite terrain texture is changed from Default to 3D Pool Managed.  Means card is managing between card memory and system memory.

composite aircraft texture USAGE:
3D usage render target is a change from default. Problem with this is that the render distortion is in terrain.

vertex buffer pool is a change from Default to 3D Pool Managed.  Above explanation.

index buffer pool is a change from Default to 3D Pool managed. Above explanation.

fullscreen swap effect is a change from 3DSwapeffect Discard to 3DSwapeffect Flip.  No change on my system prior tests.

Opinion: MS was betting on the Terrain Vertex Buffer Pool and Terrain Index Buffer Pool to pull off detailed rendering plus complex AI object's such as trucks, convoy's, trains and auto gen buildings without over burdening the "average" system.  The system is designed to use common verticies which are indexed so that the card can directly access terrain w/o going through the CPU.  That's what DirectX means.  That it isn't doing that is a FU by either MS or ATI.

Note that an MS defined "above the high end system" is CPU >1400,  and OS > win2k and RAM > 500 rates a display setting of 4. See this in CFS3configdatabase.txt in notepad.

The terrain rendering problem was "solved" by ATI in 3.4 late 2002.  Check their superseded driver's and app solutions.

So why the rendering problem?  Because MS got the graphics engine wrong or ATI hasn't provided a correct driver.
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Re: CFS3 Display error?

Postby bm » Tue Feb 03, 2004 10:47 am

Where do I change these things? I assume its the CFS3configdatabase.txt in the CFS3 folder, I'll have a go but it all sounds a bit complicated!

Yes Scania ;D However I was almost home and dry!
Everything else runs excellently with no screen errors (touch wood!) so I have got no complaints. Trust CFS3 to be the one though!
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Re: CFS3 Display error?

Postby nickle » Tue Feb 03, 2004 10:58 am

Find the texture settings in CFS3 Config/ File /Custom Settings/ Window/ Texture Info.

Two files in CFS3configdatabase.txt are for reference.  One is in use the other is a BAK
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Re: CFS3 Display error?

Postby bm » Tue Feb 03, 2004 1:09 pm

I see, I thought when I ran that all it did was to inform me CFS had been configured!!!! And theres all those gauges and stuff in there!!

Anyway I seem to have gone wrong somewhere...

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