CFS3 vs Il-2 FB

[BEAR_-_AvHistory]

nickle,

Woodlouse2002 is correct.  The Hurry with the bad nose is actually an AvHistory CFS3 Spitfire Mk Vc with a tropical filter.  Its one of 11 distinct Spitfires both Merlin & Griffon (five bladed props) powered with that we have built so far.  The Merlin will run you off the left side of the runway & to keep things interesting the Griffon will run you off the right side if to are sloppy on takeoff.



The 350 Chevy Spitfire above is a Mk Vb with a 90 gal slipper tank. It was posted because someone complained about them not having the correct drop tanks.  We have 3 flavors of slipper tanks for the Spit.



We only have one Hurry  right now and it actually looks like a Hurry.  Its a Mk Ia in the livery of Squadron Leader Douglas Bader, No 242 Squadron 1940.

The Spit Vb in the valley is flying in the Interlaken region near the Swiss border.

Everything in my pictures is unretouched from my CFS3 screen (what you see is what you get) & its all freeware.

Our 1% production includes 101 CFS2 & 99 CFS3 planes.  Since we stopped doing the CFS2 versions (V-2.80) late last year their flight dynamics although much improved over MS stock are not up to the standards of our CFS3 (V-2.85) units.

BEAR - AvHistory

[Mathias]

1% Hurricane Mk2b, Mk2b trop, Mk2c, Mk2c trop are on the way

[BEAR_-_AvHistory]

OOPPPS,

Mathias spilled the beans.  ;)

Actually Gregs' dead computer has been replaced so will will be back in production this weekend.

Was thinking about the 350 Chevy Spitfire intake comment. Did yall know that the entire 4 barrel carburetor venturi diameter on a 800hp NASCAR Chevy is equal to only 4 US Quarters (25 cent pieces) ?

BTW I do Chevy's too







The '33 has a carb venturi area equal to 8 quarters (2X4)

BEAR - AvHistory

[HawkerTempest5]

[quote]nickle,


The 350 Chevy Spitfire above is a Mk Vb with a 90 gal slipper tank. It was posted because someone complained about them not having the correct drop tanks.

[BEAR_-_AvHistory]

Figured it was a general comment but can't resist the chance to run a commercial & had some nice pictures of the slipper tank done

There are a lot of Spitfires in the hopper & the first of Hurries are close along with some new Italian iron.

We hope to be getting some planes out this weekend, not sure if they will be all new or updates yet.  It depends on their relative condition when Greg's computer went away.

BEAR - AvHistory

[HawkerTempest5]

Thanks for the update, look forward to seeing the new stuff

[Microsoft Corporation]

Saying CFS3 is better than IL-2:FB because you can install 3rd party addons to make it decent is like saying my 1975 MGB is better than a 2003 Porsche Boxter because I can build a super-charged V-6 and install it in my MGB and beat the Porsche in the quartermile.

Although it might be true in my mind, I don't think anyone at Car & Driver would agree with me.  

Quite simply, IL-2:FB:AEP 2.01 is an outstanding piece of software right out of the box (with addition of 1 free download).  It has never, and I mean never, crashed on me, and I've had it running 4 - 6 hours continuously on many occasions, as have many of my Squad mates.  Me and a lot of guys like me are racking up 100s of hours of flight time online, which is not necessarily a good thing  :o  

Even with all the hours I've logged, there's a lot I haven't even used.  I've never even tried the new German Mistel, nor many of the new flyables.  There are over 100 now, and more on the way.

I haven't had the incentive to even try CFS3 because I am heavily involved in an online campaign on the Eastern Front, currently at Stalingrad.  If I didn't care about the Eastern Front, I would probably try CFS3.

CFS3 doesn't have good looking ground textures, and Bear's screenie of the Swiss valley shows the ugly grass with dark splotches.  I've been to Switzerland, and the FB Mountains map (screenie I posted earlier in this thread) looks a lot more like Switzerland than the Switzerland in Bears screenie.  Here's a pic I took in Switzerland.  Bright green grass and trees and snow without thousands of dark splotches, just like in FB.



I'm sure as a simulation of WWII flying, CFS3 can be every bit as realistic and fun as FB, just try not to fly too low or look down

[Mathias]

[quote]Saying CFS3 is better than IL-2:FB because you can install 3rd party addons to make it decent is like saying my 1975 MGB is better than a 2003 Porsche Boxter because I can build a super-charged V-6 and install it in my MGB and beat the Porsche in the quartermile.

Although it might be true in my mind, I don't think anyone at Car & Driver would agree with me.

[BEAR_-_AvHistory]

You mean none like the dark splotches in this picture you posted?



I just love the way the IL2 fans jump on how well the dirt is modeled like its a tractor pull game or something.

A flight sim should be about planes don't you think?



Anyway if you have to talk about the ground its nice to be able to hide in the trees when you have too



Like somewhere in France on an OSS agent pickup.

BEAR - AvHistory

[Stormtropper]

Saying CFS3 is better than IL-2:FB because you can install 3rd party addons to make it decent is like saying my 1975 MGB is better than a 2003 Porsche Boxter because I can build a super-charged V-6 and install it in my MGB and beat the Porsche in the quartermile.

No its more like CFS3 is the Lamborghini and IL-2:FB is the rusty Ford

[Woodlouse2002]

Having suffered people like WillUMarryMeBill before I can only ask why he bums around a CFS3 forum? Surely if he hates the sim so much then he should go to an IL2 forum where he doesn't annoy us with his inane comments.

The simple fact is, we like CFS3 here and some goon with IL2 isn't going to change our opinions. IL2 is an exaggeration of a combat sim. Everything from damage, to effects to flight models. Their all hugely exaggerated. After having watched film of planes flying and fireing their guns I can only say i've never seen a muzzel flash that is akin to a medievil cannon, and i've never seen rockets leave hugh clouds of dirty grey smoke behind them. Infact, all they leave is a thin white vapour trail, like you see in CFS3. To further this, having seen pictures of damaged aircraft, i've never seen small caliber rounds rip huge holes in the wings of enemy aircraft. And i've never ever seen symetrical damage of aircraft. And one more thing, you really start to doubt the realism when you completely obliterate a huge 6 engined aircraft, with one cannon round from three miles away.

When I downloaded the Groundcrew Storch and the AvHistory Lysander, for the first time in any flightsim I really felt like I was flying a plane. And the Lysander in particular is just brilliant. Far better than anything in IL2.

The bottom line is, we all like CFS3. Most of us have brought, or at least played IL2 and still we like CFS3 more. Doesn't this say something? There is nothing wrong with the terrain in CFS3. The mesh is the most accurate i've ever seen in any sim and the fact that there are dark splodges in the ground really don't bother me. Now, if you still don't like CFS3 I suggest you bugger off and find yourself a nice IL2 forum where you can speak ill of CFS3 as much as you care with people who are willing to listen.

[BEAR_-_AvHistory]

Man look at that ugly ground; best get Mathias' Condor back up where it belongs.

[Woodlouse2002]

Be fair. I think the very latest addon pack for IL2 has a B17.



Mathias, I do like the look of that Hurricane. Is there anyhope of a MkIId in the works perchance?

P.s. Any word on the Lanc?

[Iroquois]

Like I said in my review, CFS3's terrain is better than Il-2, just a little dark.

Noticed Bear was flying near Interlaken. There was a freeware pack out there that added Interlaken to the sim along with a few other airfields. Anyone know where I can find it.

[Stormtropper]

Bear, how did you get the 110 cocpit to look like that, on my machine the cocpit texture doen't show up, do you know the fix???

Thanks
Jeff