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Re: Bad news

Postby garymbuska » Wed May 13, 2009 12:16 pm

At the moment we are not 100% sure who or why. They are in the process of trying to find out the exact extent of the damage. Any one wanting to use the temporary forum is more than welcome. You will need to register there as user names and passwords were not transferred.
This whole thing is indeed a sad day :'(
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Re: Bad news

Postby Ang2dogs » Wed May 13, 2009 12:37 pm

What gets me is either the hacker has a beef with Avsim, or this hacker used Avsim for a dry run for something else. If it's a beef, it's a shitty thing to do when it effects others ( kinda like when an arsonist burns down awhole building just to get to one person)! And if it was a practice run for something else, why not take down some of them pirate sites! or better yet hit some creditcard company severs!
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Re: Bad news

Postby vgbaron » Wed May 13, 2009 1:55 pm

Has it been determined that it was, in fact, a hack job and not some major system crash? Kind of a wierd coincidence that both servers would crash at the same time but it has happened before.
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Re: Bad news

Postby Fly2e » Wed May 13, 2009 2:12 pm

Maybe a disgruntled Ex-Aces employee...
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Re: Bad news

Postby SubZer0 » Wed May 13, 2009 2:20 pm

I can (to a certain extent) understand hackers going after big companies and trying to find out what really happened at Roswell and who really killed Kennedy, but to destroy a hobby website...............There has to be a lot more to this than meets the eye :-?

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That's exactly what I had in mind as well... :-/ Only gives us more to worry about. I hope we and others out there such as flightsim are safe and secure from this crap >:(

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Re: Bad news

Postby MWISimmer » Wed May 13, 2009 2:27 pm

Whatever has caused this.. be it a hack or a hardware/software failure, it's given everybody in the FS community a much needed kick up the **** and hopefully we can all pull together and welcome any Avsim "refugees" (for want of a better word) with the respect that we at SimV know we are best at.

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Re: Bad news

Postby Hagar » Wed May 13, 2009 2:33 pm

I can (to a certain extent) understand hackers going after big companies and trying to find out what really happened at Roswell and who really killed Kennedy, but to destroy a hobby website...............There has to be a lot more to this than meets the eye :-?

Matt

That's exactly what I had in mind as well... :-/ Only gives us more to worry about. I hope we and others out there such as flightsim are safe and secure from this crap >:(

This sucks!

Since when did hackers or vandals need a reason for doing what they do?

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Re: Bad news

Postby NickN » Wed May 13, 2009 2:42 pm

I'm still trying to figure out how such a well established site would not have private 'non accessible' backups of the entire system as well as server backup

I can understand being taken down and even a backup server being nailed if its open to connection.. I am having difficulty understanding why in this day and age a site that big would not be protected using very standard and simplistic corporate security backup practices

..unless its an inside job and even then protected backup should only have access to high admin alone
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Re: Bad news

Postby Alejandro Rhodes » Wed May 13, 2009 2:45 pm

That's exactly what I had in mind as well... :-/ Only gives us more to worry about. I hope we and others out there such as flightsim are safe and secure from this crap >:(

This sucks!


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Re: Bad news

Postby expat » Wed May 13, 2009 2:49 pm

"A bit of a pickle" - British translation: A catastrophically bad situation with potentially fatal consequences.

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Re: Bad news

Postby Moach » Wed May 13, 2009 2:50 pm

maybe someone at microsoft took
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Re: Bad news

Postby stevehookem » Wed May 13, 2009 2:52 pm

Hey, it's a tough economy out there. Could it be that they just can't afford to keep the site going and this is the way to go out without looking bad?

It seems very unlikely that they would lose the backup too.

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Re: Bad news

Postby Alejandro Rhodes » Wed May 13, 2009 3:00 pm

[quote]maybe someone at microsoft took
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Re: Bad news

Postby NickN » Wed May 13, 2009 3:00 pm






I'm still trying to figure out how such a well established site would not have private 'non accessible' backups of the entire system as well as server backup

I can understand being taken down and even a backup server being nailed if its open to connection.. I am having difficulty understanding why in this day and age a site that big would not be protected using very standard and simplistic corporate security backup practices

..unless its an inside job and even then protected backup should only have access to high admin alone


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Re: Bad news

Postby The-Black-Sheep » Wed May 13, 2009 3:33 pm






I'm still trying to figure out how such a well established site would not have private 'non accessible' backups of the entire system as well as server backup

I can understand being taken down and even a backup server being nailed if its open to connection.. I am having difficulty understanding why in this day and age a site that big would not be protected using very standard and simplistic corporate security backup practices

..unless its an inside job and even then protected backup should only have access to high admin alone






That was a very interesting article to say the least there Matt. Seems you're in the ball park there Nick. Freaking unbelievable to put so much trust in someone, then to screw you over aswell as a portion of the flight sim community. Think we need to keep a close eye on this one. Has really got me interested in learning as to who done this...a random hack, or an inside job.

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