Bad news

[rayfs]

Gents;

One thing is absolutely sure - Avsim needed new servers - as those they had were a complete mess ! and the site was rapidly falling down - in pieces !

the conclusion is your !

ray

[Wing Nut]

That's fine, but you can't tell me with all the advertising he had on there that he wasn't able to re-invest in his site.  He was negligent and that's all.  The 'foremost' FS site on the web and he was running it on only two servers with no backup.  What does that say?  

[rayfs]

He was negligent and that's all.

For sure - - !

and also they waste lots of money organising the Fancon - money that could be used to buy the required hardware - rather than continuosly ask donations from simmers.

It would all have been much plain and clear if :

avsim cecked the server first - and report on their forum the state of the boxes ! as apparently from what is reported on their forum - surprise - surprise -  :) this is the case now.

Yes - we can recover all data and put the site back online - that is the statement it should have been made first.

Statement 2 - - We at avsim would like also to welcome donation to purchase 2 or whatever extra servers at the cost of $$$$$$ - to expand / improve the site - and make it ready for the future - therefore we welcome your kind donation !

it is very simple courtesy and respect to their users / benefactors - that a site of such caliber own to their daily visitors.

Instead - panic - worry - that the site was lost forever was created - by the director - putting urgency to their users to open their wallets and fork out the money for it ! with the assistance of some people closely involved in avsim operations !

Do not forget that many of avsim practices defenders are commercially involved with them - and therefore have a kind and angry interest on it as their monthly income is dependent from that site - they use their forum to support avsim even when they get it all wrong.

ray

[garymbuska]

This is getting way out of line here.
read the following
There are accusations and innuendo floating around the community that the Staff of AVSIM, and me in particular, are scamming the community. We know that to be completely and totally false. In fact, so false as to be incredulous in my mind, considering our history, our charitable efforts, our Scholarship efforts, ad nauseam.

Anyway, let me make an offer that a scammer never would...

We will make this simple for everyone... Some people seem to think we are scamming them. Those that think that way (or anyone else for that matter) are welcome to get their donations returned to them, in full. I and our team have absolutely no hesitation in returning anyone's donation. Just send us the email address under which the donation was made, and we'll have your donation refunded to you in a heart beat. All anyone has to do is ask. And you certainly know where to find us.

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Tom Allensworth
AVSIM Online

[Daycab]

Personally, I don't think he set out to scam anyone.

[Fly2e]

Garymbuska... you forgot the "quote" buttons...

[garymbuska]

Garymbuska... you forgot the "quote" buttons...

Pardon me

[aussiewannabe]

Regardless of what may have transpired, it looks like avsim is starting to breathe life again. According to the forums, they're working out some bugs and related issues such as the file library.