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hey,
sometimes, some aircraft will crash the game to the desktop every time i press p to pause or y to slew in single player, or try to load the acft in multiplayer.

Try cleaning up your hard disc of extra stuff--old files, things that suck up useable memory you don't use, defrag it and try again.  Some download aircraft use a great deal of 'slack' drive space momentarily on startup, just as a big program would.  Also, make sure that no other program is running in the background when you try to put a large load on the drivers and card--like slewing (makes lotsa changes really fast).  If the fault only happens sometimes, consider yourself lucky--at least you can keep the aircraft.
    Good hunting.

thanks.

it seems that any aircraft i install a certian nav panel on crash.  that may be the problem.... here's the panel file of one of the aircraft i'm having trouble with:

// This Panel.cfg file created by CfgEdit
// Built Tuesday, September 03, 2002 at 11:41 Build:16462

[Window Titles]
Window00=Main Window
Window01=Engine Controls
Window02=Radio Direction
Window03=Fuel CG Trim
Window04=GPS

[VIEWS]
view_forward_WINDOWS=%window_title_00%
VIEW_FORWARD_DIR=3.3, 0.0, 0.0
VIEW_FORWARD_ZOOM=0.3
VIEW_RIGHT_ZOOM=0.2
VIEW_LEFT_ZOOM=0.2
VIEW_REAR_ZOOM=0.2
VIEW_FORWARD_UP_ZOOM=0.24



[Window00]
file=panel_background_1024.bmp
size_mm=1024
window_size_ratio=1.00  
position=4
visible=1
ident=MAIN_PANEL
sizeable=1
render_3d_window=1

gauge00=f4f4_wildcat!Directional-Gyro,  439,493,111,135
gauge01=f4f4_wildcat!Attitude-Indicator,  567,472,144,143
gauge02=f4f4_wildcat!Altimeter,  332,496,97,98
gauge03=f4f4_wildcat!Turn-Coordinator,  477,642,98,97
gauge04=f4f4_wildcat!Airspeed-Indicator,  366,642,95,96
gauge05=f4f4_wildcat!Tachometer,  253,642,97,96
gauge06=f4f4_wildcat!Manifold-Pressure,  220,539,95,96
gauge07=f4f4_wildcat!Climb-Indicator,  593,644,96,95
gauge08=f4f4_wildcat!Ignition-Switch,  39,663,59,58
gauge09=f6f3_hellcat!Fuel_Quantity,  852,691,67,66
gauge10=f4f4_wildcat!Engine-Gauge,  933,675,85,84
gauge11=f4u1a_corsair!Hydraulic_Pressure_Warning,  292,500,20,19
gauge12=f4f4_wildcat!Starter,  7,664,23,57
gauge13=f4f4_wildcat!Master-Switch,  53,608,34,48
gauge14=f4f4_wildcat!Icon-Engine-Controls,  346, 614 ,20,19
gauge15=f4f4_wildcat!Icon-Map,  685,624,20,19
gauge16=concorde!Fuel-Panel-Display-Toggle,  424,608,20,19
gauge17=jwb_trswitch!trim_switch,  945,620,26,42
gauge18=JWB.gun_count4,  734,716,52,19
gauge19=p47d!Engine_Temperature,  112,570,67,66
gauge20=concorde!Compass-Display-Toggle,  538,608,20,19
gauge21=APN-22radalt!Radio Altimeter,  713,604,96
gauge22=f4f4_wildcat!Clock,  734,518,70,69
gauge23=p38f_lightning!Fuel-Selector,  844,601,78,77
gauge24=f4f4_wildcat!Low-Fuel-Warning,  850,564,20,19
gauge25=f4f4_wildcat!Magnetic-Compass,  104,646,80,79
gauge26=f4f4_wildcat!Flaps-Lever,  21,733,67,31
gauge27=f4f4_wildcat!Landing-Gear-Position-Indicator,  112,733,67,31
gauge28=mooney_bravo!Speed Brake,  385,445,24,18

[Window01]
file=Ecu.bmp
size_mm=188
position=6
visible=0
ident=THROTTLE_PANEL
sizeable=1
window_size= 0.250, 0.400
window_pos= 0.000, 0.600

gauge00=F4U1A_Corsair!ECU,  0,0

[Window02]
file=RDF.bmp
size_mm=200,78
position=6
visible=0
ident=COMPASS_PANEL
window_size= 0.333, 0.150
window_pos= 0.655, 0.866

gauge00=concorde!ADF,  1,1,74
gauge01=concorde!Radio-Adf,  77,1,124

[Window03]
file=714PopUp.BMP
size_mm=260,70
position=6
visible=0
ident=COLLECTIVE_PANEL
sizeable=1
window_size= 0.303, 0.100
window_pos= 0.340, 0.900

gauge00=jwb_trim!Trim,  103,4,66,62
gauge01=JWB!cg_pct,  63,35,34,16
gauge02=concorde!Pitch-Trim,  176,2,24,64
gauge03=concorde!Yaw-Trim,  204,44,54,23
gauge04=concorde!Roll-Trim,  213,3,34,36
gauge05=jwb_controls!controls,  2,2,58,65

[Window04]
file=AuxPanel3.bmp
size_mm=340,291
window_size_ratio=1.00  
position=8
visible=0
ident=GPS_PANEL
nomenu=0
window_size= 0.340, 0.400
window_pos= 0.650, 0.590

gauge00=GPS100A,  225,83,105,99
gauge01=Cfo_Gauges!Refuel_Dump_NB,  13,196,105,69
gauge02=Military.Chronometer,  225,181,105,99
gauge03=RKG_fuelstat!Airspeed,  117,83,110,99
gauge04=Cfs2gps,  13,83,105,99
gauge05=RKG_fuelstat!FuelStatusSq_recip,  117,184,110,101
gauge06=737-400.AUTOPILOT,  12,9,319,75
                                     

[Default View]
X=0
Y=0
SIZE_X=8191
SIZE_Y=5000

AuxPanel3.bmp and all the other required pics are in the folder.  i added window04 (the nav panel) and did not replace anything.

I think the panel is most likely explanation. It has the FS2000-style extra view windows. There's an easy way to find out. Alias the panels in the problem aircraft to one of the default panels & see if that fixed it.

yeah, the plane worked when i removed the nav panel.... can i somehow change or get rid of the extra view windows?

OK, that confirmed it's the panel. It might be the extra windows or one or more gauges that's causing the problem. Rather than mess around modifying it I think it might be better to find another panel.  ::)

thx alot

Hi boys. Well I must add that the Panel in question is my Nav. Panel v3 from the Hopper site.  comm1 has e-mailed me about this issue. I know there are others that are running XP and have no problems with that panel.

Comm1, let me ask you; you said you went from Windows 98 to XP. My question is, was it an upgrade or a new install of XP? Reason being, there are many a folks out there that did the "Upgrade" to XP and experienced a lot of problems.

If you "Upgraded", there might lie your problem. Can't figure why the panel would work for other XPers and not you.  

Little help here Hagar.    

Oops. Seems I put my big foot in it again. LOL  :P

Sorry, I have never used WinXP & have no knowledge of it.

LOL, no you didn't Hagar. After comm1 emailed me and I had time to think about it, I realized that there are others running XP and have that Nav. Panel and experience no problems. This being the case, I had to think of what else it could be. Then it hit me, might be the dreaded XP UPGRADE. Don't know for sure.

Thanks old friend. I'm downloading your nav panel now to check it out. Not that this will help much as I'm running WinMe. You might be right about that XP upgrade. From the continual problems I still see every day I have no inclination to try XP.  ::)

This reminds me. I think you should update the Hoppers link in your profile. Many people have asked me where you disappeared to.

Thx for the heads up on the Profile link Hagar. Funny how it takes one old fart to keep another old fart on his toes!! Will correct that.

And I knew you were following me too. But when I looked around, there was no one there. Spookie!!  

At this time, I really lean toward the XP Upgrade theory. But I ain't that smart in this stuff.

Thx for the heads up on the Profile link Hagar. Funny how it takes one old fart to keep another old fart on his toes!! Will correct that.

Us old farts must stick together.

yeah, it was from an aircraft i put in on, hagar.