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Anyone know anything about Fozzer?......apparently his last post was back in November.....his wit and charm is noticeably absent.

Welcome back from your coma

I sent you a PM. 

8-)

OK....Now I'm totally confused. What has happened to Fozz?

Zaphod. :-?

He was banned for being an old school, 1950's racist. Pushed the rules to the limit for years and in the end his self admitted bigotry showed him the way to the door.

Mods, including Shane, and others on the forums, were calling for his banning for years.

While he was here he put a LOT of people off staying here. Someone even made a video about him .... 

You might as well add this to the FAQ Pete. 

8-)

[quote]He was banned for being an old school, 1950's racist. Pushed the rules to the limit for years and in the end his self admitted bigotry showed him the way to the door.

Mods, including Shane, and others on the forums, were calling for his banning for years.

While he was here he put a LOT of people off staying here. Someone even made a video about him ....

Yeah, that "ApplePie" guy on their forum is pretty racist isn't he.

[quote][quote][quote]He was banned for being an old school, 1950's racist. Pushed the rules to the limit for years and in the end his self admitted bigotry showed him the way to the door.

Mods, including Shane, and others on the forums, were calling for his banning for years.

While he was here he put a LOT of people off staying here. Someone even made a video about him ....

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While he was here he put a LOT of people off staying here. Someone even made a video about him ....

You don't want to go by that video to understand why Fozzer was banned... it was, in fact, an unusually diplomatic moment for him.
I don't quite get that video rant, myself... it reminds me of the other one I've seen...

anyway, Fozzer was banned for responding to the few simple, sensible rules here regarding hot-button topics as if they were unreasonable and oppressive: by thumbing his nose at Pete over and over, despite calm and reasoned arguments and gentle reminders. It escalated, with inevitable results.

Pete and all the mods know why F. was popular here- he was funny and helpful, gregarious and very active in all forums for a very long time, and most importantly, he was passionate about sim flight. I think I speak for all the mods, and many users, when I say that sometimes he is missed. Nobody else had a Fozzer, and he often added a certain charm to the forums here.

But there are rules here, rules designed to keep SimV from turning into yet another wall for trolls to pee on, and Foz refused to respect that.


He's entitled, just as he's entitled to his opinions about people or countries or flightsim add-ons. But Pete is entitled to ban any user who threatens to undermine all that he's built here, whether it be Fozzer or any of the others who've "forgotten where they are", created anger and discord over stuff that has nothing to do with the purpose of the site, then refused to apologize or relent. It can't be tolerated, because it drives people away. and the bottom line is that it's Pete's site, and he doesn't want that "tone" here. I'm still here because I agree with that.

If anyone can't handle that, they can go off to some "rogue" flight sim site, where you can say what you want about anything or anyone.

...until that site, too, is forced to impose some set of rules of decorum and order... then where will you go?

Remember there are people with prejudice, then there is me. I'm totally fair minded... I hate EVERYONE Is it any wonder I spent 9 years in teaching?

Fozzer had many positives going for him.  When he was "good"... it was a pleaure to have him around.  It is for that reason that he even lasted as long as he did here. 

Because the negatives he exhibited were very negative to the goals of the site, and most importantly, he refused to comply with requests to control those aspects.

It is actually very simple and easy to understand. 

best,

..................john

@SteveM: No offence taken. Since you clearly don't know what you are talking about.

@Beaky: Yes, you can call it a 'rogue' website. Doesn't mean there are no rules. Yes, there is a more relaxed freedom of speech overthere. Yes, you are encouraged to discuss anything. But, within limits. Go too far and you are also banned. Homebbrewer is the living example of that. He was the first to be banned and hopefully the last.

FSNerd.

[quote]Fozzer had many positives going for him.