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Re: Tips for those with lesser systems?

Postby thebrelon » Fri Nov 10, 2006 3:24 pm

did you try nick's tweak? not that I don't trust him, I actually followed his advices many times and never have been disapointed, but just to have more feedbacks...

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Re: Tips for those with lesser systems?

Postby krigl » Fri Nov 10, 2006 4:25 pm

did you try nick's tweak? not that I don't trust him, I actually followed his advices many times and never have been disapointed, but just to have more feedbacks...

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I haven't had time - might not be till Xmas as my system runs relatively ok so far. But I definitely intend to, as I'm sure it will help a lot... I posted a seperate thread in here about it so that people with more time could find the tweaks and try them out, but it's dissappeared - someone removed it, don't know why  ???
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Re: Tips for those with lesser systems?

Postby NicksFXHouse » Fri Nov 10, 2006 5:26 pm

TERRAIN_EXTENDED_LEVELS=1242456

That is a garbage setting... it defaults to 1

It should only be raised if you are using what is known as buffer mesh however you can also try a value of 4, no more


TERRAIN_DEFAULT_RADIUS=8.500000
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Re: Tips for those with lesser systems?

Postby Sytse » Fri Nov 10, 2006 6:01 pm

Cheers! Do these great tips also apply to other versions of FS?
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Re: Tips for those with lesser systems?

Postby NicksFXHouse » Fri Nov 10, 2006 6:19 pm

Cheers! Do these great tips also apply to other versions of FS?



Windows and driver settings apply to any system for any software... the FS9 settings, for the most part, can not be imported into FSX

FSX is a completely different animal and when I get time I will post a low-medium config file for people to try

EDIT: The 4 most overlooked areas by people is the hardware types, (all of it) how it is installed on the motherboard (especially memory), the BIOS and how Windows is set up with correct driver installs and then properly cleaned on the disk.

If one or all of those items are out of sync... you will always fight a uphill battle with any MSFS product.

Thats why you may see some people with lesser hardware post things work well and most post they dont... also, there is the issue of frustration caused by low grade hardware. No body wants to fly and not see the eye-candy and a large number of complaints stem from people trying to see the eye candy with hardware they have no business trying to push... then get depressed from the results.


also.. Go to the DIRECTX website and download the lastest web update tool and update DirectX properly.
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Re: Tips for those with lesser systems?

Postby ramsa329 » Sat Nov 11, 2006 8:45 pm

I have been asked to post on this forum by Souichiro.

I don't really wish to comment on any of Nick's excellent research except to say that much of what he says has merit and much of what he says is by fs-gs standards a bit off.

As he has warned any tweak can have different affects on each individual machine and should be approached with caution.

According to our work and studies over the last 4 years and with well now close to 3000 clients we have found the following:

The issue of pan_rate which can be found under {Controls] in your .cfg is tied directly to texture_bandwidth_mult which can be found under [Display]

The original ratio 60:40 between the numbers should be preserved (as much as possible).

Low end and even some higher end Nvidia cards and almost all ATI cards would be
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Re: Tips for those with lesser systems?

Postby NicksFXHouse » Sun Nov 12, 2006 5:27 am

What it all boils down to is whatever works best for your system and as long as it is not harmful, do it.

There is more than one way to make a system run good and without issues. I take the engineering approach which goes by the book, the designers of the operating system and the software being used.

If a method is found that produces desired results consistently and has worked for years on end by all means, stick with it.
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Re: Tips for those with lesser systems?

Postby ramsa329 » Sun Nov 12, 2006 11:42 am

Nick,

This is not personal. I was asked to comment which as you know I generally do not do.

For the most I agree with everything you said in your last post.

My issue with posting technical posts such as yours, which as I have already said contains a lot of excellent research and makes a highly valuable package, is the same issue that I have when I am asked to post my own findings.

Most personal users do not understand fully what they are doing and non-personal support is very indirect.

It can lead to many many critical errors.

This is why fs-gs exists. Through our system we can deal with the client on a one to one basis and ensure that he/she will neither misunderstand or take a "wrong turn".

I did not mean to imply that what you have posted was dangerous because of its content.

I too am an engineer with many many years of experience and with too many certifications to mention here.  

But even as an engineer eventhough I find your approach of "going by the book " and  "engineering" interesting reading I also have issues with it which is natural since my approach is based on an interpersonal 1 to1 client and machine interaction.

It is my belief that this "engineering" and corresponding lack of ability to think beyond the box "principle" is one of the reasons that ACES has done such a miserable job with FSX. They couldn't see the forest for the trees and they missed the point altogether on many many levels

Fs-Gs have found that it is often much better to think outside the "box" when dealing with clients and to cut back on the "technocratic" aspect of computing.

Both systems use intensive hardware testing (I test for both Nvidia and ATI) and product testing ( almost every add-on product available for Fs9 and now for FSX)

But sometimes you have to get "down and dirty" with clients as I am sure you do with all of yours.

1 on 1 to deal with their fears,
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Re: Tips for those with lesser systems?

Postby NicksFXHouse » Sun Nov 12, 2006 3:46 pm

None of my posts contain research. They contain a methodology which has been practiced by professionals for years with changes to the specifics in order to accommodate present day logistics with respect to Windows, hardware and driver engineering.

I do not have clients for services, nor will I in the future.

What I posted was not an advertisement for business or placed on the forums to attract customers.

It was placed here to help, nothing more... and without any catch, at all.

Anyone who has used the method I outlined properly knows the results. I do not fine tune anyone
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Re: Tips for those with lesser systems?

Postby ramsa329 » Sun Nov 12, 2006 10:32 pm

Well.....................................

Why am I not surprised.

I knew that the moment that I would post all the B*ll S**t would start.

"What I posted was not an advertisement for business or placed on the forums to attract customers."

I don't give a rat's a** whether anyone from these forums uses my services or not. I want them to know that there are alternatives to choose from.

I refer to my service because it's the base I work from

"None of my posts contain research. They contain a methodology which has been practiced by professionals for years with changes to the specifics in order to accommodate present day logistics with respect to Windows, hardware and driver engineering."

Very well written nice languaging meaningless but nice

Uhhhhhhhhhhhh......................I'm not surprised that there is no research.

By the way which "professionals" are you referring to? The ones you pick out, God's final word?

I find your self-aggrandizing language to be obnoxious and if you did run a computer service I would be out the door at the speed of light.

"I can have a sim that looks like I am running the best hardware money can buy in a screenshot, and in reality I jacked up the settings to get the shot @ 5-10FPS. There is no practical sim function to screenshots which people sometimes forget."

So...........................Not to someone who can identify that it doesn't and I and many others can identify that "trick" easily. There will always be signs for those who look.

"Those with medium-low grade hardware can get better results but they also must accept its limitations and that there is no miracle cure to make it run better. One must accept the limits of the hardware once a system has been properly set up"

Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh no kidding really. Such enlightenment

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Re: Tips for those with lesser systems?

Postby NicksFXHouse » Sun Nov 12, 2006 10:49 pm

My gosh Michael... I -am- quite surprised.


actually.. Im not.
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Re: Tips for those with lesser systems?

Postby ramsa329 » Mon Nov 13, 2006 2:10 am

Upset me you call that upset.

Oh I doubt that.

What an abysmally low threshhold you must have to rejoin in such a
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Re: Tips for those with lesser systems?

Postby NicksFXHouse » Mon Nov 13, 2006 2:19 am

No sir, I haven
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Re: Tips for those with lesser systems?

Postby ramsa329 » Mon Nov 13, 2006 3:53 am

Goodnight Nick

I hope you have your security blanket with you...............

and your Teddy.

and don't forget GOD loves you the best

Oooops I forgot you are God
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Re: Tips for those with lesser systems?

Postby Mees » Mon Nov 13, 2006 7:40 am

Guys, please...
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