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Have Any Of you Seen a real B727? Need info please

PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:18 pm
by alrot
I'm working with this model , and I think I saw it in airliners.net the thrust reverse mechanism in one of the shots pulling out a thing like this


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I need this info , to fix the animation because I heard once that isn't work like that ,Have you seen a real 727? and btw I just check in Youtube all the MSFS concerning B727 and no animation on this ,there has to be something that moves or ..I don't know  :-/

Re: Have Any Of you Seen a real B727? Need info please

PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:27 pm
by fabiane
There are lot's of engines for a 727.

super727 = engines like a MD80. Thrust reversers work like the Citation engines.
(Captain Sim uses this enigines:
http://www.captainsim.com/cgi-bin/imgvi ... 16.jpg;x=1)
Photo:
http://members.tripod.com/~aravm98/refe ... 7eng10.htm

The normal 727 engines don't move at thrust reverser I think,

I'm unsure which extend to the back.

There are also engines fittet for Stage 4 noise requirements that look like a big tube coming out of the engines.

Lots of photos of the 727 engines can be found here:
http://members.tripod.com/~aravm98/refe ... gindex.htm

Otherwise I could do a search on airliners.net....,

Hope that helped a bit, you could look at the Vistaliners model.
There has been an unofficial release with different engines.
(HGW, Super727, F, OE27, FEDEx and Advance model)

But the best thing would be to look for pics, I'll do a search.
Nice paint BTW!
What will you do? Looking forward to this one.
Could you add 2 winglets on a model?
Freighter model?

Cheers,
Fabian

Re: Have Any Of you Seen a real B727? Need info please

PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:43 pm
by alrot
:-/ OMG this is embarazing ,and Only one person told me that , :-/ it opens normaly as other plane

Re: Have Any Of you Seen a real B727? Need info please

PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:47 pm
by fabiane
Your animation wasn't wrong, I guess you modelled the Advanced JT3D-7 by mistake.

The link you posted is the super 727 (reversers like 737-200, MD-8X)

If you go to the mainpage there are many infos on the different models:
http://members.tripod.com/~aravm98/refe ... Dindex.htm
Also great detail on different parts can be seen (gear, wings,....)
Glad I could help,

Cheers,
Fabian

P.S.: Winglet pic:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Boeing_727-LAB.jpg
It's more like a 747-400 / A330 / A340 winglet, not ike the curved ones made by Boeing normally.

Re: Have Any Of you Seen a real B727? Need info please

PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:15 pm
by Triple_7
I flew on a NW 727-200 before...but couldn't tell you what the reverser's did...actually that was before they really seemed to use them much.  Most of my flights back then we hit the ground, spoilers up and coasted to a taxi speed :-/

Watching a couple landing videos on http://www.flightlevel350.com/advanced_search.php it almost appears as some engine models nothing noticeable moves with the reverse :-?

Re: Have Any Of you Seen a real B727? Need info please

PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:29 pm
by Ivan
Internal cascade (no stuff visible) vs clamshell (with the big doors)

Some cascade reversers do have visible doors on the inside of the engine (Tu-134A-3)

Re: Have Any Of you Seen a real B727? Need info please

PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:04 pm
by a1
The detail and color of the tail is great. Keep up the good work. ;)

Re: Have Any Of you Seen a real B727? Need info please

PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:42 pm
by alrot
Yes they Do ,I knew it

Re: Have Any Of you Seen a real B727? Need info please

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:45 am
by fabiane
Did you see, that in your 1st 2 links the planes are on the taxiway? So no reverser deployed. I think that's the noise reduction kit I was taking about. But I'm unsure about this, too.

I think Ivan is right.
Internal cascade (no stuff visible) vs clamshell (with the big doors)


- The internal cascades don't move OR extend to the rear (JT3D-7 aftermarket engine), but I'm unsure.
- The Clamshells open like your Citation

Engine types for the 727-200:

64.5kN (14,500lb) Pratt & Whitney JT8D-9 turbofans,
67.2kN (15,000lb) JT8D-11s,
68.9kN (15,500lb) JT8D-15s
71.1kN (16,000lb) JT8D-17s (Advanced only),
77.3kN (17,400lb) JT8D-17Rs (Advanced only).

And I've left out the aftermarket modifications....
So you've got 5 to choose.

Cheers,
Fabian

Re: Have Any Of you Seen a real B727? Need info please

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 4:10 am
by Papa9571
Here you go alrot......

http://www.boeing-727.com/Data/systems/ ... verse.html

This is the model of 727 they were designed for

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/733904/L/

Or better yet.....

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0109593/M/

I hope this helps