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New Classic jetliner

PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 4:17 pm
by Ivan
The Tu-124 is the first turbofan powered jetliner ever... range is just 1100NM with around 60 pax onboard

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Started up...

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Takeoff

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Panel... No ILS hold, no VOR hold, just a dual ADF, RSBN and a clock

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This one has an optional brake chute... for short runways. Usually flaps, liftdumpers and the big airbrake are enough

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Re: New Classic jetliner

PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 5:58 pm
by vololiberista
The Tu-124 is the first turbofan powered jetliner ever...


I rather think that the DeHavilland comet 1 was the first jet airliner!!!!!!!!!
Vololiberista

Re: New Classic jetliner

PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 6:05 pm
by Double_Farvel
Nice shots :)

Re: New Classic jetliner

PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 6:07 pm
by Alonso
Wowwww!!! those brakes are awesome!!! :o :o

Very nice shots.

Re: New Classic jetliner

PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 6:20 pm
by ashaman
I rather think that the DeHavilland comet 1 was the first jet airliner!!!!!!!!!
Vololiberista


Turbofan powered, Volo. The DH 104 Comet was a turbojet powered plane. there's a difference. :P



The Tu-124 is the first turbofan powered jetliner ever...


I always knew the first plane to be built around turbofans was the Convair 990M. :-?

Re: New Classic jetliner

PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 6:46 pm
by Lazerbeak
Picked up that beauty last night. Unofrtunately, the smoke effects play havoc on my frames, but other than that, it's a lovely package. Payware-quality external model, incredible sounds, and a very in-depth panel. Shame it has no VC, but that's a minor nit to pick.

Re: New Classic jetliner

PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 2:12 am
by vololiberista
I rather think that the DeHavilland comet 1 was the first jet airliner!!!!!!!!!
Vololiberista


Turbofan powered, Volo. The DH 104 Comet was a turbojet powered plane. there's a difference. :P



The Tu-124 is the first turbofan powered jetliner ever...


I always knew the first plane to be built around turbofans was the Convair 990M. :-?


Ok point taken but I thought the RR Conway was the first turbofan to enter ailine service on the 707 and DC8 and then the VC10
Vololiberista

Re: New Classic jetliner

PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 2:39 am
by fabiane
Cool pics, already downed that classic. So the difference tu a Tu-104 are the engines, right? And the Tu-124 was the first with Turbofans?

A cool looking design, love your russian scenery Ivan,

Greetings,
Fabian

Re: New Classic jetliner

PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 5:18 am
by jb2_86_uk
....liftdumpers....



What are 'liftdumpers'? (Im always learning  :))

JB

Re: New Classic jetliner

PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 6:54 am
by Hai Perso Coyone?
And where can this little beauty be found? :o :o

Re: New Classic jetliner

PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 7:23 am
by ashaman
Ok point taken but I thought the RR Conway was the first turbofan to enter ailine service on the 707 and DC8 and then the VC10
Vololiberista


I was talking about the first plane to be designed and built with the use of turbofans in mind. The first 707 and the DC8 were born powered by JT3A turbojets and were later retrofitted with various kinds of turbofans.

The VC10 was born with turbofans alright, but I rather doubt it was the first plane ever to be built with such engines in mind. Or at least I've read the first liner ever to was the C990M.



What are 'liftdumpers'? (Im always learning  :))


The "liftdumpers" are the ground spoilers that can be seen on the aircraft's wings, nowadays armed in flight to deploy automatically after the plane has touched ground (but that in old planes required complete manual deployment), so to reduce drastically wing lift on ground and allow a better braking.

Re: New Classic jetliner

PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 9:15 am
by eniranjanrao
A classic Jet no doubt the Indian Air Force Had some and living near the bases in 1970's, just used to love the tail chute come on just after landing a great Jet  ;D Could not get over it the only passenger Jet at thet time to have one :)

Re: New Classic jetliner

PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 9:20 am
by Fitter
Great shots and very nice bird....I need to get this one soon... 8-)

Re: New Classic jetliner

PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 10:16 am
by ashaman
A classic Jet no doubt the Indian Air Force Had some and living near the bases in 1970's, just used to love the tail chute come on just after landing a great Jet  ;D Could not get over it the only passenger Jet at thet time to have one :)


The Caravelle too had a chute. Way back in the days those planes were built, engine reversers were not available and the only braking aid for short field performance were chutes. I remember having read that on the Caravelles Alitalia used, oftentimes the chutes froze at cruise level temperatures (probably due to incorrect handling or stockage) and when deployed they did not open, remaining a cube of iced fabric dragged by the plane. :D

Re: New Classic jetliner

PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 10:31 am
by vololiberista
A classic Jet no doubt the Indian Air Force Had some and living near the bases in 1970's, just used to love the tail chute come on just after landing a great Jet  ;D Could not get over it the only passenger Jet at thet time to have one :)


The Caravelle too had a chute. Way back in the days those planes were built, engine reversers were not available and the only braking aid for short field performance were chutes. I remember having read that on the Caravelles Alitalia used, oftentimes the chutes froze at cruise level temperatures (probably due to incorrect handling or stockage) and when deployed they did not open, remaining a cube of iced fabric dragged by the plane. :D


The early Caravelles had another problem far more serious!!   Their wings!!  They had no provision for air brakes or spoilers and the only way to slow the a/c down was to deploy the flaps resulting in intense vibration and buffeting which in some cases took the wings off!!!
Vololiberista