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is this legal???????

PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 7:20 pm
by firemonte007
I saw this Cessna at my home airport last night and i dont know if i would have flown this in like this...is this even safe? let alone legal to fly?

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thanks for looking and enjoy
comments welcome and discussion is more then welcome also
Jason 8-)

Re: is this legal???????

PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 7:24 pm
by skoker
Yep it's legal.  the skin of a plane is for aerodynamic purposes only.  I see it done all the time with flap canoes and things like that. ;)

Re: is this legal???????

PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 9:10 pm
by Willit Run
....and banner planes!!

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Re: is this legal???????

PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 9:26 pm
by DaveSims
I wouldn't recommend it much though.  Air cooled engines need the cowling to help force the air over the cylinders and keep cool.  As for half a cowl, I imagine it would soon be pulled off by the 100+mph wind it will encounter.

Re: is this legal???????

PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 7:57 am
by beaky
It is legal, and the only reason cowlings and internal baffles are designed to force air over the cylinders is because that is necessary when there is a cowling. ;D

Banner-tow airplanes don't fly without cowlings (or baffles) because their owners can't afford cowlings... it cools the engine much better, and the aerodynamic penalty is negligible because they are not trying to go fast (and can't, really, towing a huge, draggy banner).

The remaining part won't come off if it is attached properly, but with this particular Cessna I do see one problem: no air filter. You wouldn't want to operate that engine for very long without one, and I think most banner-tow airplanes have some sort of rig to keep a filter on the intake despite the lack of a cowling.

Re: is this legal???????

PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:39 am
by firemonte007
thank you for the insight guys...i just thought this was wierd to see on the tarmac

Re: is this legal???????

PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:04 am
by expat
You don't want to know what the average cigar tube can fly without :o :o

Matt

Re: is this legal???????

PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:21 am
by specter177
Did you actually see it fly? Cause it could just be sitting there waiting for maintenance.

Re: is this legal???????

PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:28 am
by ShaneG_old
You don't want to know what the average cigar tube can fly without :o :o

Matt




Please tell us you have some pics. ;D ;D 8-)

Re: is this legal???????

PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:42 am
by skoker
You don't want to know what the average cigar tube can fly without :o :o

Matt




Please tell us you have some pics. ;D ;D 8-)

N144UP missing its flap Canoe

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Re: is this legal???????

PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:59 pm
by beaky
Did you actually see it fly? Cause it could just be sitting there waiting for maintenance.

True... looking at it again, I think it could be chancy flying it like that because of the exposed baffling... not really made to meet theslipstream head-on like that (?).

Re: is this legal???????

PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:14 pm
by Roughrider
Did you actually see it fly? Cause it could just be sitting there waiting for maintenance.

True... looking at it again, I think it could be chancy flying it like that because of the exposed baffling... not really made to meet theslipstream head-on like that (?).



Sean, you think that is chancy, I seem to remember you flying around without the skin on top of the wing!!!!!!!!    :o  I couldn't resist!!!!!

Re: is this legal???????

PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:28 pm
by BigTruck
Did you actually see it fly? Cause it could just be sitting there waiting for maintenance.

True... looking at it again, I think it could be chancy flying it like that because of the exposed baffling... not really made to meet theslipstream head-on like that (?).



Sean, you think that is chancy, I seem to remember you flying around without the skin on top of the wing!!!!!!!!

Re: is this legal???????

PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:40 pm
by Hagar
I saw this Cessna at my home airport last night and i dont know if i would have flown this in like this...is this even safe? let alone legal to fly?

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If it flew in like that did it occur to you that the lower cowling might have dropped off en route? ;)

Re: is this legal???????

PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 3:03 pm
by Roughrider
Did you actually see it fly? Cause it could just be sitting there waiting for maintenance.

True... looking at it again, I think it could be chancy flying it like that because of the exposed baffling... not really made to meet theslipstream head-on like that (?).



Sean, you think that is chancy, I seem to remember you flying around without the skin on top of the wing!!!!!!!!