47N Oct. 26th Part 1 of 2

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47N Oct. 26th Part 1 of 2

Postby beaky » Mon Dec 01, 2008 6:43 pm

Almost forgot about these pics... what a great day.  I already miss the nice Indian summer we had around here this fall. And this day was so much longer... sigh...



JP tries out the new high-vis signal paddle while helping launch Herb and Greg... first thing asked him when I saw this was "how the f*** are we gonna play ping-pong with only one paddle?!"  JP likes that kind of stuff. ;D


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Kyle, one of the club's two ANG C-17 crewmen, makes a rare appearance for a lesson. He's doing pretty good despite not having much time to devote to it.  Must be nice to do some real flying for a change... ;)

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For Fozzer (and Dr. Doolittle): a rarely-seen "push-me-pull-you", aka "the Mixmaster".

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Club member Andy arrives in the Kitten... the "Polish Air Force" is on maneuvers. ;D

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Re: 47N Oct. 26th Part 1 of 2

Postby Steve M » Mon Dec 01, 2008 7:51 pm

The 3rd pic interests me. Its kind of the flying boxcar look, or when I was young we would see those dual tails fly overhead and we knew them as flying boxcars. Maybe a laymens term. I'm not sure. So anyway, it looks to me like the advantage would be more rudder surface and in this pic I am thinking the horizontal piece adds more aileron surface. Am I guessing right?
Its a nice looking plane all in all. :)
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Re: 47N Oct. 26th Part 1 of 2

Postby flyboy 28 » Mon Dec 01, 2008 10:13 pm

More great shots, Sean. If you happen to be at Kupper on any given day, do not hesitate to let me know. I, like Doug, am going through a bit of withdrawal. Even EWR is starting to disappoint. :-/
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Re: 47N Oct. 26th Part 1 of 2

Postby beaky » Mon Dec 01, 2008 11:05 pm

The 3rd pic interests me. Its kind of the flying boxcar look, or when I was young we would see those dual tails fly overhead and we knew them as flying boxcars. Maybe a laymens term. I'm not sure. So anyway, it looks to me like the advantage would be more rudder surface and in this pic I am thinking the horizontal piece adds more aileron surface. Am I guessing right?
Its a nice looking plane all in all. :)

It's a lot smaller than the "Flying Boxcar", and in this case the advantage is only to allow two engines in tandem, instead of side by side. Total rudder and elevator surface on the Skymaster is probably about the same as if it had a conventional tail.
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Re: 47N Oct. 26th Part 1 of 2

Postby Willit Run » Tue Dec 02, 2008 11:29 pm

More nice shots, Sean!!
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Re: 47N Oct. 26th Part 1 of 2

Postby C » Wed Dec 03, 2008 9:26 am

The 3rd pic interests me. Its kind of the flying boxcar look, or when I was young we would see those dual tails fly overhead and we knew them as flying boxcars. Maybe a laymens term. I'm not sure. So anyway, it looks to me like the advantage would be more rudder surface and in this pic I am thinking the horizontal piece adds more aileron surface. Am I guessing right?
Its a nice looking plane all in all. :)

It's a lot smaller than the "Flying Boxcar", and in this case the advantage is only to allow two engines in tandem, instead of side by side. Total rudder and elevator surface on the Skymaster is probably about the same as if it had a conventional tail.


I suppose the other advantage is that a lot of the gyroscopic effects are cancelled out, and negating the need for anything larger. I assume both engines rotate the same way (and hence the opposite way, as one is facing backwards with a pusher prop)?
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Re: 47N Oct. 26th Part 1 of 2

Postby Flying Trucker » Wed Dec 03, 2008 2:21 pm

Wonderful shots Sean... ;)

The C337 was one of my favourites.
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