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A glimpse of Sussex

PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 6:12 am
by Hagar
Well, the forecasters were right. This weekend has been a complete washout so no air show photos I'm afraid. :(

Now the display season is almost over I thought it might be a good idea to resume Grumpy's Tours. The previous weekend couldn't have been much different with blazing sunshine all along the south coast. Typically there were no air events within reach. On the Saturday I went with a friend to a well-known beauty spot in East Sussex.

Cuckmere Haven is an area of flood plain between the South Downs & the coast. Schools from all parts of the country often visit here so the children can see a typical example of a meandering river with several oxbow lakes. This shot was taken looking across one of the oxbows towards the village of West Dean.
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Further south towards the estuary looking north west across the river Cuckmere. The tide was rapidly going out.
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This is Seaford Head with the old coastguard cottages on the right.
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Looking the other way this is Haven Brow, the first of the range of cliffs known as the Seven Sisters.
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The area is covered with WWII pillboxes, anti-tank obstacles known as dragons teeth & ditches. Here's your tour guide Grumpy standing on top of one of the pillboxes. ;)
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On the way back to the visitor centre. Nice to see a few sheep keeping the grass down. The Downs used to be covered with them not so long ago.
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The Seven Sisters Country Park visitor centre is on the site of the ancient village of Exceat. This is reputed to have been King Alfred's naval base.
The village was decimated during the Black Death & abandoned after raids from the French in the mid-1400s. The red & white bus is on its way to Eastbourne.
Buses run along here from Brighton every 15 minutes or so which is very handy now I have my free bus pass. 8-)
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Another view over the river with the visitor centre on the right. You can just see the para-gliders flying from the hill in the background.
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That's the end of my little tour. If it goes down well I might post some more from time to time.

PS. Here's some interesting facts about Cuckmere Haven shamelessly stolen from Wikipedia.

History

The beach was commonly used by smugglers in the 16th, 17th and 18th centuries. For example, in 1783, two gangs of smugglers (each numbering 200 or 300) overcame officers of the law by weight of numbers and carried away a large quantity of goods.

In the second world war the site was subject to significant attention from the Luftwaffe as they flew missions to identify potential landing sites for the invasion of the UK mainland. As a result a series of counter-landing constructions remains, including numerous pillboxes, anti-tank obstacles, ditches and tank traps. Cuckmere Haven featured heavily in the war effort; at night lights were placed to confuse bombers into thinking they were above Newhaven and an airfield was set up further inland. As well as the permanent constructions the river was heavily mined.

Cuckmere Haven as a film location

The beach at Cuckmere Haven was used for the opening scene in Kevin Costner's Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves and the Seven Sisters cliff face was briefly featured in the Harry Potter film Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire. The beach was featured in the 2007 film Atonement, a postcard of the lifeboat cottage overlooking the beach was a central element of the plot with Robbie Turner focusing on it as the idyll where he and Cecilia Tallis would retire after World War II. The final sequence of the film with Robbie and Cecilia running in the waves was shot on the beach.

Re: A glimpse of Sussex

PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 6:24 am
by Fozzer
Fantastic Photo's, Doug...;)...!

I perfect example of the joys of living in the typical English Countryside... :)...!

No need do go "Abroad" for such luxuries...;)...!

I adore my picturesque County of Herefordshire and its River Wye, and the surrounding Counties,  for the same reason... :-*...!

F.

P.S. Love the Autumn Trees in the Photo's, just changing to their golden Autumn colours!

P.P.S....I don't know if its just me....but I always think there's something Magic about the English Contryside..(and the rest of Great Britain)... [smiley=thumbsup.gif]...!

Re: A glimpse of Sussex

PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 6:30 am
by MWISimmer
The road that the bus is on (A259) was the bane of my life when I used to drive lorries. Once a week my route was Worthing-Brighton-Newhaven-Eastbourne-Hastings-Folkestone. It's a lovely road, it's known as the tourist route, but when you're driving a fully loaded lorry it can take an eternity.

On the other hand, the view as you drive up the hill past Cuckmere Haven is wonderful.

Nice pics, brought back some old memories.

Cheers Doug.  8-)

Re: A glimpse of Sussex

PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 8:03 am
by Roughrider
Thanks for taking us along Doug.

Re: A glimpse of Sussex

PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 9:26 am
by beaky
I'll bet that countryside looks fine and peaceful even in lousy weather... beautiful set!!  :)


I like the pillbox shot: "Now go away, or I will taunt you a second time...!" :D

Re: A glimpse of Sussex

PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 9:36 am
by Willit Run
Excellent shots, Doug!!  Thank you for taking us along with you!!

Cory

Re: A glimpse of Sussex

PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 6:05 pm
by Mobius
Those are some impressive cliffs. :o

It has to be pretty interesting to have all that history so close. :)

Re: A glimpse of Sussex

PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:06 am
by TSC.
Another great tour Doug, good to see the pillbox & hear that you still have a few dragons teeth knocking around - do you ever see any of the sound mirrors that were dotted around the Sussex/Kent area?

Cheers,

TSC.

Re: A glimpse of Sussex

PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:53 am
by Hagar
Thanks for the comments chaps. Much to my surprise I found a sort of prequel to this tour still posted here. http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1154454897/0#0
It starts more or less where this one left off. Birling Gap is a couple of miles east of Cuckmere Haven.

Fantastic Photo's, Doug...;)...!

I perfect example of the joys of living in the typical English Countryside... :)...!

No need do go "Abroad" for such luxuries...;)...!

I adore my picturesque County of Herefordshire and its River Wye, and the surrounding Counties,  for the same reason... :-*...!

F.

P.S. Love the Autumn Trees in the Photo's, just changing to their golden Autumn colours!

P.P.S....I don't know if its just me....but I always think there's something Magic about the English Contryside..(and the rest of Great Britain)... [smiley=thumbsup.gif]...!

Not just you Paul. I've travelled to some very interesting places but it's always good to get home. I was born here & wouldn't want to live anywhere else.

CD said:
On the other hand, the view as you drive up the hill past Cuckmere Haven is wonderful.

That view is indeed wonderful. I must set off early one morning & try to get some decent photos of it. There's not many places to stop on that bit of road.

Roughrider said:
Also I know why the Germans never crossed the channel, they saw that rough looking character standing on top of the pillbox and said, we will stay on this side!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D

Rottydaddy said:
I like the pillbox shot: "Now go away, or I will taunt you a second time...!" :D

I think you're  both pretty close to the truth. LOL
If they had landed in 1940 I'm not sure we would have stood much chance against the might of the German army.

Mobius said:
Those are some impressive cliffs. :o

It has to be pretty interesting to have all that history so close. :)

No comparison with something like the Grand Canyon but still pretty impressive. I've grown up here so I'm used to the history. Not sure we always appreciate it as much as we should.

TSC said:
good to see the pillbox & hear that you still have a few dragons teeth knocking around - do you ever see any of the sound mirrors that were dotted around the Sussex/Kent area?

There's quite a few pillboxes of various types dotted around. I didn't take any shots of the dragons teeth for some reason. I found some interesting pics here. http://www.24hourmuseum.org.uk/brightonandhove/local/TRA27531.html

This is the first I've heard of sound mirrors. The nearest survivors in this area appear to be at Selsey & Folkestone. I must investigate some time. Read all about them here. http://www.ajg41.clara.co.uk/mirrors/index.html

Re: A glimpse of Sussex

PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 12:25 pm
by Flying Trucker
Good afternoon all... :)

Thanks for the tour Doug...wonderful.

Pillboxes...I always thought they were made from poured concrete and steel.  Wonder how bricks would have stood up against a heavy naval bombardment or that wonderful "Stuka" uncle Herman had?   ;D

Can you actually get inside to see what the pillbox looked like for the defenders or are they sealed?  Perhaps full of water by now.

Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug

Re: A glimpse of Sussex

PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 12:44 pm
by TSC.
[quote]Can you actually get inside to see what the pillbox looked like for the defenders or are they sealed?

Re: A glimpse of Sussex

PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 12:56 pm
by Hagar
poured concrete and steel.  Wonder how bricks would have stood up against a heavy naval bombardment or that wonderful "Stuka" uncle Herman had?   ;D

Can you actually get inside to see what the pillbox looked like for the defenders or are they sealed?  Perhaps full of water by now.

Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug

Hi Doug. There's several different types of pillboxes at Cuckmere. Check out my link. http://www.24hourmuseum.org.uk/brightonandhove/local/TRA27531.html

You can still get inside some of them but I expect they pong a bit.

Re: A glimpse of Sussex

PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 1:02 pm
by Flying Trucker
Thanks folks... :)

Will have a look and see.   ;)

Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug

Re: A glimpse of Sussex

PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 2:45 pm
by Omag 2.0
You've got it all at one spot Doug. The glowing fields with cobblestone-walls, the seaside, the mountainlike cliffs... It's like entire England in just some square miles.

Personally I've never made it further than Kent and London, but shots like these show there's much more to be seen over the Pond...

Re: A glimpse of Sussex

PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 11:21 pm
by Rifleman

.......................... I expect they pong a bit.


Nice call Doug,........I haven't heard that term in quite a while........

On a further note about your images........splendid !.....You always do yourself proud with the tours you present to us.........Thanks for your time behind (and in front of) your camera.