Re: Heathrow Part 2.

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Sat Jan 05, 2008 3:33 pm
by Vapour01
They look a bit soft to me, what shutter speed were you using?
Re: Heathrow Part 2.

Posted:
Sat Jan 05, 2008 3:41 pm
by MWISimmer
If I'm honest Steven I'm not up to speed on the finer details of photography.. The Lufthansa was taken on "A" setting (Aperture priority?) which I'm told sets the shutter speed automatically ??
The PIA was on Manual setting, shutter speed of 200 or 320, not sure... but the white balance was set to cloudy, at least I know that
Re: Heathrow Part 2.

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Sat Jan 05, 2008 3:56 pm
by mrjake2002
If I'm honest Steven I'm not up to speed on the finer details of photography.. The Lufthansa was taken on "A" setting (Aperture priority?) which I'm told sets the shutter speed automatically ??
The PIA was on Manual setting, shutter speed of 200 or 320, not sure... but the white balance was set to cloudy, at least I know that ;D
Remember these were taken on a bridge camera (Fuji s9600), I'm reasonably happy with the results.. they're FAR better than my last efforts, Mic helped out quite a lot :)
I'll definitely go back, practice makes perfect and I'm planning on doing a few airshows this year :)
Cool shots, look forward to seeing you at a few shows! :)
Re: Heathrow Part 2.

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Sat Jan 05, 2008 3:56 pm
by 61_OTU
Hi Rob, good efforts, but Steve's right they are a little soft....not from focus but from camera shake.
A is for aperture priority, which means that you choose the aperture, and the camera chooses an appropriate shutter speed.
Presuming that you selected the largest aperture (f2.8 on yours) or that the largest aperture was already selected, then this should allow the camera to select the fastest possible shutter speed to correctly expose the image.
You need to factor in where you metered the light from (you want the aircraft to focus/expose properly, so your focus point should be on the aircraft), and also what ISO setting the camera was on.
ISO in a digital camera is a measure of the sensitivity of the sensor. Your s9600 has ISO that ranges from 80 (least sensitive, best quality, good for bright days) to 1600 (most sensitive, poorest quality, good for low-light).
Even when you select aperture priority, and select a wide aperture to allow in max. light, the camera sensitivity may be set so that a comparatively low shutter speed may be selected by the camera. If the light is poor, and you increase the ISO to 200 or 400 then you will increase the available shutter speed and hopefully get sharper shots.
Right click on the original images on your PC, choose properties, summary, advanced.....and tell us what the ISO, shutter, aperture, focal length information says, maybe we can suggest some changes
Steve
Re: Heathrow Part 2.

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Sat Jan 05, 2008 4:26 pm
by MWISimmer
Hi Rob, good efforts, but Steve's right they are a little soft....not from focus but from camera shake.
A is for aperture priority, which means that you choose the aperture, and the camera chooses an appropriate shutter speed.
Presuming that you selected the largest aperture (f2.8 on yours) or that the largest aperture was already selected, then this should allow the camera to select the fastest possible shutter speed to correctly expose the image.
You need to factor in where you metered the light from (you want the aircraft to focus/expose properly, so your focus point should be on the aircraft), and also what ISO setting the camera was on.
ISO in a digital camera is a measure of the sensitivity of the sensor. Your s9600 has ISO that ranges from 80 (least sensitive, best quality, good for bright days) to 1600 (most sensitive, poorest quality, good for low-light).
Even when you select aperture priority, and select a wide aperture to allow in max. light, the camera sensitivity may be set so that a comparatively low shutter speed may be selected by the camera. If the light is poor, and you increase the ISO to 200 or 400 then you will increase the available shutter speed and hopefully get sharper shots.
Right click on the original images on your PC, choose properties, summary, advanced.....and tell us what the ISO, shutter, aperture, focal length information says, maybe we can suggest some changes
Steve
Cheers Steve, I've learnt more today than I've learnt since I bought the camera...
Re: Heathrow Part 2.

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Sat Jan 05, 2008 4:34 pm
by Mictheslik
The LH A300 came out nice

.mic
Re: Heathrow Part 2.

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Sat Jan 05, 2008 4:39 pm
by MWISimmer
Cheers mic, you were a star today 8-)
Re: Heathrow Part 2.

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Sat Jan 05, 2008 4:40 pm
by Hagar
Hi Rob. Glad you had a good time.
Cheers Steve, I've learnt more today than I've learnt since I bought the camera... :P
Lufthansa:

PIA:

Hope that helps :)
I already got that information from the shots you posted. (Image/Information in IrfanView.) You might like to remove the EXIF data from your edited images before posting them next time or it's all there for anyone to see. Apart from that I'm keeping my big mouth shut as I'm hoping to learn something from this too.
Re: Heathrow Part 2.

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Sat Jan 05, 2008 4:44 pm
by MWISimmer
The all seeing Doug ;D ;D
I don't care who sees what's edited or not to be honest, all I did was adjust the contrast and crop (a bit :P)
Doesn't everybody do this nowadays? ;)
Re: Heathrow Part 2.

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Sat Jan 05, 2008 4:47 pm
by Hagar
The all seeing Doug ;D ;D
I don't care who sees what's edited or not to be honest, all I did was adjust the contrast and crop (a bit :P)
Doesn't everybody do this nowadays? ;)
That's not what I meant. It doesn't give it on your images but mine shows the serial number of the camera & other personal data.
Re: Heathrow Part 2.

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Sat Jan 05, 2008 4:48 pm
by Mictheslik
Cheers mic, you were a star today 8-)
It was fun

You probably saw the nice Cathay A340 as you were leaving....directly after it was a lovely China Airways 744

:D
.mic
PS...
a comparison for the LH


Re: Heathrow Part 2.

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Sat Jan 05, 2008 4:52 pm
by MWISimmer
You probably saw the nice Cathay A340 as you were leaving....directly after it was a lovely China Airways 744 :D:D
.mic
And you probably saw the angry fist waving out of my window as I drove away with my camera safely packed away in the boot... ;D >:(
Re: Heathrow Part 2.

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Sat Jan 05, 2008 4:58 pm
by MWISimmer
That's not what I meant. It doesn't give it on your images but mine shows the serial number of the camera & other personal data.
I must admit, I cropped all personal stuff from that Irfanview shot, apart from the original filename...
Re: Heathrow Part 2.

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Sat Jan 05, 2008 5:04 pm
by Hagar
That's not what I meant. It doesn't give it on your images but mine shows the serial number of the camera & other personal data.
I must admit, I cropped all personal stuff from that Irfanview shot, apart from the original filename...
No Rob, you're missing my point. The info I'm talking about is embedded in the images you posted. There should be an option to remove the EXIF data when you save the resized images.