PA-32R-301

[Brett_Henderson]

I couldn't help but think about JFK Jr... but that didn't take away from the experience.

[Ashar]

Beautiful shots Brett 8-)

[Wii]

Cool!


Wii 8-)

[Aerophile]

Looks like a fun plane to fly.

[C]

Nice. Good to see a user friendly flight director too! Very similar to the EFIS one on the B200 (except of course that was digital), and just so easy to use.

[Brett_Henderson]

Nice. Good to see a user friendly flight director too!  Very similar to the EFIS one on the B200 (except of course that was digital), and just so easy to use.  

I'm still not a fan of flight directors.. and  the ONLY complaint I had about this plane, was that if the autopilot was on; the FD was on. You could have just the FD on, but no autopilot without the FD (which is kind of counter-intuitive)...

I flew the ILS to 9R and let the autopilot capture and hold it (kinds creepy at first) just for fun. Man.. I could get used to flying aircraft like that Saratoga...

[beaky]

To-ga! To-ga!!



Lucky you- that's a fine machine, even if the wing is in the wrong place.

My first light airplane ride- in the front seat, no less- was in a Saratoga, many moons ago...

[Jared]

nice plane I was down in columbus yesterday installing signs at the new methodist hospital they are still building

[Brett_Henderson]

Lucky you- that's a fine machine, even if the wing is in the wrong place

I didn't expect to be this impressed...but geeez was that a nice aircraft.. I'm still running it through my head..

I was down in columbus yesterday installing signs at the new methodist hospital they are still building

HEY... PM or email me next time you'll be in town..  we'll go up.. maybe head over to Urbana for lunch  :)

[Mobius]

You lucky SOB, you. 8-)


That cloud layer looks pretty thin, was it actual IMC just for fun?

[Brett_Henderson]

That cloud layer looks pretty thin, was it actual IMC just for fun?  

Welllllll.... you know the cloud rules;  1000' above / 500' under / 2000' vertical seperation ...  

Seriously though...  the winds favored runway 9R, and I wanted to see how the autopilot approach hold worked... so asked Columbus approach for the ILS... Maybe 10 minutes of flying, "filed on the fly". It was perfect VFR  :P

[Mobius]

I was only asking because I had a few lessons where there's been a 100' thick layer of clouds that we got a local IFR clearance for so we could get a few minutes of actual time instead of wearing that stupid hood.  

[Brett_Henderson]

Did you ever fly filed; asking for new altitudes to stay IN the clouds ?  We did that a few times.

There is absoulutely NO substitution for, "can't see the wing-tips", actual time. Makes ya wonder what kind of instrument pilots come out of those "crash" courses in Florida... where they they end up rated, with little, if any actual  ::)

[Mobius]

Yeah, we once got an altitude block so we could stay in the clouds and get a little ice on everything to see what would happen.  We picked up a nice rime layer after a few minutes, but the layer was only 40 or 50 feet thick (the clouds not the ice...), so if it got to be too much we could drop out or climb above them and lose the ice in a matter of seconds.  It was really strange to see such a performance drop with such little ice, but it was extremely worth it to learn the importance of avoiding ice.  Unfortunately, that particular weather situation doesn't happen often enough to plan for it in training, otherwise it would be invaluable to new IR pilots.

[The Ruptured Duck]

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