Re: Planespotter quicke

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Sat Aug 27, 2005 6:36 am
by Hagar
Aeritalia/Fiat G.91 Luftwaffe. Next.

Re: Planespotter quicke

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Sat Aug 27, 2005 6:41 am
by Theis
nope
but since im going to vacation now, you have alot of time to guess it!
Cya in a week!

Cheers Theis
Re: Planespotter quicke

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Sat Aug 27, 2005 6:52 am
by Hagar
nope
That's funny.

OK, if you want to be pedantic I forgot the R/3 but it looks strangely like this one.
http://www1.airpics.com/showimg.php?imgid=19759
Re: Planespotter quicke

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Sat Aug 27, 2005 7:52 am
by C

Nice one Doug! It is a G.91. Quite a nice looking aeroplane really. I bet it flew quite nicely too...
Re: Planespotter quicke

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Sat Aug 27, 2005 2:47 pm
by Hagar
The G.91 was inspired by the F-86.
http://www.allstar.fiu.edu/aero/fiat.htmIn the autumn of 1957 the 14 countries that then formed the North American Treaty Organization (NATO) conducted a series of competitive trials among a number of western European aircraft manufacturers to select a lightweight ground attack fighter plane. After extensive testing, the aircraft selected as NATO's standard strike fighter was the G.91 produced by Aeritalia, the Italian airframe manufacturers established by the giant automotive firm of Fiat.
The G.91, which resembled a scaled-down versions of America's North American F-86 Sabrejet, was a superb aircraft and well suited to its mission of hitting fast and hard at potential enemy ground targets. Its sophisticated array of armament included either four .50-caliber machine guns or two 30-millimeter cannons mounted in the sides of its fuselage, two 500-pound conventional bombs, air-to-air guided missiles and up to 31 air-to-ground rockets. It also had the capability of carrying nuclear weapons, but their type, size and number have remained classified information.
Fiat had previously built the F-86K under licence.
Re: Planespotter quicke

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Sat Aug 27, 2005 3:55 pm
by C
...and just to compare, here's an F-86D. Its not quite as "pretty" and looks a little larger than the G-91, which from memory is quite a small aircraft (even compared to the F-86)...

Re: Planespotter quicke

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Sat Aug 27, 2005 5:44 pm
by Felix/FFDS
As an aside - the G.91 was actually tested by the US ARMY as a ground support aircraft (late 50''s?) ... but of course, as we all know, the boys in blue argued that all fixed-wing, turbine, combat aircraft were theirs alone ... (If not, can you image the A-10s in "US ARMY" insignia?)
As it was, a couple of Fiat G.91s were done up in US ARMY titles.
Re: Planespotter quicke

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Sun Sep 04, 2005 9:07 am
by Theis
sorry doug
but it was the F-86K i was searching after
http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/planes/q0138.shtmlCheers Theis
Re: Planespotter quicke

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Sun Sep 04, 2005 1:30 pm
by C
sorry doug
but it was the F-86K i was searching after
Doh. You should have posted this pic then!


Re: Planespotter quicke

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Sun Sep 04, 2005 4:29 pm
by beaky
Here's a fun 86D fact: If I remember correctly, this airframe was used to test an all-weather, sideways-launching missile system to minimize exposure to the enemy and also to "fake them out":
The autopilot would be slaved to the targeting radar, the Sabre would turn itself away from the target, the missile rack would lower out of the belly of the plane, and off they'd go. The enemy might see a radar image of the F86D, but not necessarily the rockets...
Don't think it was very successful, but it was an interesting idea. Kind of weird role for such a great air-to-air "gunfighter", though...