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Other bits in Kecskemet

PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 5:56 am
by ozzy72
Some odds and sods....
The Hungarian advanced trainer the L-39
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The new Czech advanced trainer the L-159
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Some twit brought this (I think they were hoping for sales orders), the Spirit. Anyone know anything about this? It did some aerial ballet that was so boring I nearly fell asleep ::)
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Re: Other bits in Kecskemet

PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 6:15 am
by Ivan
For the last one...
Ibis Aerospace Ae270
Probably won't be the success they see in it as there is a political bog looming in the distance (china - taiwan - eu)

Re: Other bits in Kecskemet

PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 7:07 am
by Hai Perso Coyone?
Fine shots!! That plane looks a bit like the PC-12... ::) :P

Re: Other bits in Kecskemet

PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 8:14 am
by C
The Ae270 Spirit looks very similar to the type of thing that killed one of the guys who crashed in the Mig-29s at Fairford...

Re: Other bits in Kecskemet

PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 4:42 pm
by Mynameisnemo
Fine shots!! That plane looks a bit like the PC-12...


I'd think it was a Socata TBM700 and the PC-12 has a t-tail.

Re: Other bits in Kecskemet

PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 1:55 am
by Ivan
The Ae270 Spirit looks very similar to the type of thing that killed one of the guys who crashed in the Mig-29s at Fairford...

Only thing that looks like the Ae270 is a Myashinev M-101 'Gzhel... and that's miles away from the Aeromist An-140 with the scanty clad lady on the tail that flew into the mountain while ferrying HESA officials to another airport as part of the license building program...

Re: Other bits in Kecskemet

PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 7:13 am
by Ben_M_K
Yeah, looks just like a PC-12 as Ashar said, that's what I thought it was at first. Beautiful aircraft! 8)

Re: Other bits in Kecskemet

PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 11:13 am
by Mynameisnemo
ok hopefully this will settle the argument on the last Picture:

The Ibis Aerospace Ae270 and the Socata TBM 700C2 are essentially the same aircraft just made by different manufacturers, the Ae270 is powered by a P&W Canada PT6A-66A with a 800hp shaft rating, and the TBM is powered by a P&W Canada PT6A-64A with a 700hp shaft rating.

Speed wise:
TBM: Max cruise speed @ sea Level: 300 KTAS 555kmh
Ae270: as above except for: 218 KTAS 404 kmh

Max Celiing:
TBM: 31,000 ft
AE270: 30,000ft

Max Range:
TBM: 1565 NM @ 31,000 ft
AE270: 1544 NM @ 30,000 ft

I'm going to leave the final decision up to you but i think the TBM is the overall winner.

John

Re: Other bits in Kecskemet

PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 11:56 am
by C
Only thing that looks like the Ae270 is a Myashinev M-101 'Gzhel... and that's miles away from the Aeromist An-140 with the scanty clad lady on the tail that flew into the mountain while ferrying HESA officials to another airport as part of the license building program...


Ahhh, it was a long time ago, my memory must be failing me! ;)