New CFS?

[AvHistory]

Nice shots, AvHistory; like said, however, this particular forum was developed for the original Combat Flight Simulator. There were other simulations but no other CFS came first. Even CFS3 has some due to CFS1 but I ununstalled it after a few trial runs. Here's an actual CFS1 screenshot (for WW1, to keep the historical perspective to your shots

Just brought in CFS3 because of the comments about the origins of CFS4 were incorrect.

[H]

All things being equal my favorite old flight sim is EAW because of the large number of planes you could get in the formations. 250 at a time IIRC.

My EAW disk lays in a drawer with a crack from  edge to center .
When CFS appeared, many home computers still had relatively small RAM and hard drive capacity and only one of the latter (especially mine). I remember I had a problem with notepad refusing further data until I tried a line-by-line "paste" cheat which allowed me to increase it somewhat. That problem seems to have disappeared with my later computers (and I use wordpad more often). I'm unaware of how many planes might max out CFS -- haven't tried over 50 (I know I can do more than 20), let alone 250! Partly due to the 'circus' tag of WW1 squadrons, I started numerous texturing for those planes, incorporating each in the same  flight. Although greatly increasing the .mis file size, I would probably do so with WW2 or Korean missions. I compiled a WW1 CFS not quite two years ago and only recently installed a 4th one for Korea (not just 3 because I also have one for my own fictitious world based on the 'camping club' of my youth, using those camp insignias). Of course, that restricts my flying WW1, WW2 and Korean planes against each other (although the Seafire, Corsair, P51, etc. saw some action in Korea, thus are already incorporated) without pulling one from the one folder and into the other.
I also thought of making some missions for non-combat planes (even a war torn world isn't all combat); these would be longer flights, possibly waypoint restricted since "getting there" is a main objective.

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[AvHistory]

Since you are into WWI have you been following the "Over Flanders Fields" project at all?

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/f ... ay.php?f=8

They have done up some very nice vintage aircraft & scenery.

We will be supporting the re-do of the Korea War Construction by the Dog Patch Crew with Version 4 flight & damage packages for the aircraft.  Korea is about as far as the FS based CFS1-2-3 flight models can be stretched.  

CFS is really bad in the very high transonic & above range.

The new Korean version will be an all new theater as we have cracked the, how to create water, issue in the MAW project.  Prior to breaking the code all "new" water, that in water not on the original theater map, was just blue or green painted terrain.  Not to good for ships or seaplanes.  ;D

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I actually was registered with sim-outhouse but I've forgotten my own sig there since my period of no internet earlier this year.
As a test, I just put an F104g (OK, maybe I need post Korean theaters) up to @38k and broke the sound barrier (without the bang, although the pilot/plane would no longer be there to hear it). I dived and leveled at @5k, holding @1500mph (exceeding 1650mph in the dive). The problem at that speed and altitude (@38k) is that you literally see the "four corners of the world" extending before you, while receding behind you, sectionally.
I'm still reworking a few other CFS2 planes for CFS1 usage. Although adaptable with a comparable CFS1 .air, most can be used by proper deletions and edits of their own file. Of course, the textures need to be properly formatted,too.

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[AvHistory]

The Jets can go fast & break the sound barrier in all 3 versions (some one made a sound effect for flyby) but the way the planes fly once the get into & over the .90 mach range bare no resemblance to reality as far a control inputs to physical flight changes.

Not sure what size the old Korea map is but the new one we did for MAW is approximately 1,600 miles wide by 1,600 miles high.  I know in MAW if you take a P-51D to 40K feet over the middle of the Ionian Sea all you can see is water.

On the CFS2 to CFS there was similar problem going the other way.  The CFS models are more simplistic so when they went into CFS2 unchanged they were over modeled & acted like super planes.

[james007]

I have not been able to post for the few days. After waching this post that was originaly about a member having a question about the Future of the CFS series turn into a Shameless adverticement for CFS3. I have a few things to say.

CFS3 is a good Combat Simulator with some nice features. Like for example if you buy the Firepower addon you will able to use the turren gunner of a B17. Thats something that you can not do with the other Sims at this time. It some nice sceneries that a more third dementions then most of the other Sims have. It also have some nice planes and the only one with a more Dynamic Campaign Generator that allow you effect the future of a campaign. Mine you less Historical base than the other Sims.

The Offline World war one base addon that is a class production by a very nice group of guys. Even dow this does take the away the need for a Dedicated World war one Combat Sim.

The MAW Addon is been promise to bee a pretty good addon on a Theater of war that has not been properly represented at this in the Sim communitty. But at this moment its only a bunch of Screen Shots has been use as a excuse to Bluff to intimitate other members and to show off CFS3 over the Sims. I hope they can finnish it without the need to bee boustful and allow the community to enjoy it as one more addon for the communitty to enjoy and not sold as the ultimate addon in the Hobby.

Now let me tell something that CFS3 will not give you.

The diversity and flexibility of CFS2. With over 1,500 planes.

A world map with the ability to create missions all over the World.

With more than 500 Airbases spread out over the world.

With countless Texures and Sceneries that can bee place over the World.

Mission and Camapaigns that represent basically all the AirForces that participated in World war two.

You can even Build missions and campaigns for the Chinese Airforce flying over China. Can you believe
that!

Just Check This post on how planes to fly in with CFS2. Thats a diversity that CFS3 cannot match. Especially since CFS3 developer most likely will never build a serous addon for the Pacific Theater.

In  CFS2 the developer are very balance and interested in all aspect of World war two Aviation. Thats very refreshing.

Check this post out and see How many planes this Sim offer.

I have decide to make a post placing most of the links I have with CFS2 planes. I hope to you like this post. My only objective is to help fellow members to find most of the planes that have been develope  throughout  the years for this community by its dedicated developers.

My first recomdation if you to install Acman from this Website that will anable you to install most if not all this planes in different Hangars and in different CFS2 Installs.

1.http://fly.to/mwgfx#

                        A WORD OF CAUTION

When you use the Acman and create a new Hangar you need to include the stock planes. What you can do is to make a New Folder and place a copy of the Stock planes in it. When you make the new Hangar just copy  the stock planes from this Folder. Remember also that you are limit to 95 to 100 planes per Hangar. You do get up to18 Hangar with this program.


My secound recommendation is for you to install this utility from Sim-outhouse that will allow you to change planes and ships with in a Miision and Campaigns in secounds.

It also will give the ability to change whole planes Hangars and convert them into Ai Bandits in Quick mission.

This way you do not have activate plane after planes manualy. Its call mk_cfs2_uti2v.zip

2.http://www.sim-outhouse.com/index.php?l ... -utilities

Now let start the best of planes and Skin plus panels available for this Sim.

1.Simviation planes.What great collection:http://www.simviation.com/cfs2aircraft1.htm

2.Sim-outhhouse hundreds of planes. One of favorite Website:http://www.sim-outhouse.com/index.php?loc=downloads&page=downloads&FileType=cfs2-aircraft

3. Simhouse Skins:http://www.sim-outhouse.com/index.php?loc=downloads&page=downloads&FileType=cfs2-skins

4.Sim-Outhouse outlet planes:http://www.sim-outhouse.com/master_ftp/cfs2/cfs2-aircraft/

5.Sims Outel Skins:http://www.sim-outhouse.com/master_ftp/cfs2/cfs2-skins/

6.Wai planes. It those only have nice planes but one of the P51 avalable in the Sim World:http://acwai.00freehost.com/index.html

7. Netwings planes. One of the great collections of planes ever:http://www.netwings.org/library/CFS2%5FPlanes/

6.Netwings Skins. Very nice ones indeed:http://www.netwings.org/library/CFS2%5FSkins/

7.World war one planes available right here:http://www.aer.ip3.co.uk/cfs2_9.htm

8. A nice Web for planes:http://myzone59.ath.cx/combatflightsimulator/avions.htm

9.Avsim a nice all around Website for planes and o
ther things:http://www.avsim.com/

10.http://www.big.or.jp/~chah_s/beyond1945 ... index.html

11.Nice Mosquito:http://bescaravage.free.fr/bruno/pages/entrez.htm

11. World war one and P26 planes:http://www.mwsteckel.com/CFS2.html

12. Absuad self auto install upgraded planes available Here:http://www.absquad.net/CFS2_ABSquad.htm
13Nice

He177 :http://www.geocities.com/kg200hangar/cfs2aircraft.html

14.French Web with lots of planes. You will figure it out:http://cfsfrance.altajeux.com/

15.DAG has Russian planes:http://cfsfrance.altajeux.com/DAG/links.htm

16.French Fighter D520 Dewoitine:http://perso.wanadoo.fr/jm.mermaz/telecharg/d520gmax/d520gmax.htm

17.Website dedicated to the P51:http://www.btinternet.com/~duxford.legends/pages/P51.html

18.Missions and Bf109:http://www.angelfire.com/ab5/cfs2brits/Downloads

19.Easy Kill has nice Skins and effects:http://storage2.free.fr/

20.Easy Kills planes are here:http://storage2.free.fr/

21.Spanish Web with some more planes: http://usuarios.lycos.es/flakiten/

23.This site has many nice Me110 and some other European planes:http://www.groundcrewdesign.com/cfs2planes.htm

24. Av planes:http://www.netwings.org/library/Avhistory%5FCFS2%5FAircraft/

25.This Web also CFS2 planes:http://www.surclaro.com/downloads_c2_240_hitsA.html

26. Best site for Italian planes:http://www.isoliti4gatti.com/warbirds.htm

27.Good site for Ju52:http://www.ju52-3m.ch/models.htm

28.Best site for Ki44:http://pigeonh.free.fr/ki442.htm

29.One of the best Websites for Japanese planes and some German planes as well. I love the Ki43 and Ki84:http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://hago003.hp.infoseek.co.jp/&prev=/search%3F3Dhttp://hago003.hp.infoseek.co.jp/index.html%2B%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DGhtt

30. Here is another Website:http://home.iprimus.com.au/mandcsilver/

31.Here is another Japanes Website with some nice Japanese planes:http://yashico.cool.ne.jp/

32. Here is a Website with rare British planes:http://www.pavaservices.com/cfs/

33.http://uk.geocities.com/wily_crocodiley ... craft.html

34.Another British Website with guess what? More British planes. I love their Spitfire and Hurricain. It also has a nice Ki43 with all around view from the cockpit: http://www.raf662.com/modules.php?name=Downloads

35.Modern planes:http://www.anglovirtual.4t.com/photo.html

36.Bruno planes:http://www.br-planes.fr.st/

37.Green Stuart Web includes World war one and two planes. It also includes the only G4MI Betty in this Sim:http://www.domicilium.com/peveril/hangar/hangar.htm

Nows lets talk about IL-2 Pacific Fighter Merge. It has Hundreds of planes and and many Dynamics Historical base Campaigns representing most the most important campaigns in World war two.

Just check this post out and you will what I mean.

http://www.lowengrin.com/news.php

Most important of all you now fly in the Eastern Front with virtualy every plane that participated in that front.

That something that you cannot do with CFS3.


James007

[james007]

Now lets talk about EAW and CFS1 they are great Combat Simulator in their own term. They both give you something that the more resent Sim cannot give you. Immertion and just simplistic fun.

EAW is simply the most immersing Sim up to now and a lot of to fly with. Heck is lot more immersing than CFS3 will ever bee. It also has many campaigns that represent areas of the Worlds that CFS3 will never represent. Yes its a bit dated compare to todays Sim but I still enjoy it very much when I fly with it.

Just check out this post and see how many different Theater you can fly with it.

1.http://www.sandbaggereaw.com/home2.html

WoW! thats a incredible large amount of Theaters and campaings if you ask me. Its just not a Europen Theater Sim any more is it?

Its community has turn it into to a very good Sim that has been in the market for over six years.


James007

[james007]

Now Lets talk about the Sim this Forum is base on.

[DrRedskwirrell]

*14. http://homepage.ntlworld.com/adrian.cam ... /CFS1.html
(Or just click my signature and follow the CFS1 link)

[AvHistory]

CFS3 is a good Combat Simulator with some nice features. Like for example if you buy the Firepower addon you will able to use the turren gunner of a B17.

Wrong;

[james007]

You are less than sincere. since I know and any one else would now that No World war two plane could fly more perhaps 1.500 to 1,600 miles.

You also have a very nice B29 with the Fire power adddon that looks great. But there is a big problem with it. It was never used in the in the European Theater so unfortunually it will have no historical missions for it

[AvHistory]

You are less than sincere. since I know and any one else would now that No World war two plane could fly more perhaps 1.500 to 1,600 miles. James007

That's the whole point, a contiguous world map is nice but totally unnecessary to recreate just about any mission flown in WWII because of the planes limited range.

[quote]You also have a very nice B29 with the Fire power adddon that looks great. But there is a big problem with it. It was never used in the in the European Theater so unfortunually it will have no historical missions for it

[james007]

No Sir I'm not the one pushing CFS2 so hard it is you that is alway pushing CFS3 in our face. As you may have notice I have mention Pacific Fighter merge and EAW plus CFS1 and CFS2. I do not do that. I think its in bad taste to do that. I have mention it when you have out content tried to promoted CFS3 in othe member forums.

Now I will never Promote CFS2 or any other program in some one else forum. If I have I"m sorry. Now if some one has ask for a good Sim to buy I will mention CFS2 but I also included

[AvHistory]

No Sir I'm not the one pushing CFS2 so hard it is you that is alway pushing CFS3 in our face.
Now I will never Promote CFS2 or any other program in some one else forum. James007

Did you not post this in a CFS3 forum?

"You can Buy CFS2 and CFS3 right here if you want:
1.http://yhst-12000246778232.stores.yahoo ... games.html
There are other places you can Buy this great sims.
James007"

The post above you already mentioned CFS2 so why bother to add to it in a CFS3 forum?

You explanation about tranfer of the B29 to China I"m sorry was pretty lame. Beside you can not fly the B29 to China with CFS3.James007

It is a historical fact & you left out the B-29 touring England for the Germans benefit.

[quote]As for your comment that is enough space in the MAW map for Iwo Jima map.

Maybe, but there is a problem with that also. No comitment or interest in any other theater than that of

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antagonistic to the ridiculous level, which brings us to such a level of technicality:

AvHistory: If you can measure it, weight it, determine its power you can very accurately simulate it.

To more accurately render, "If you can measure it, weigh it, determine its power you can quite accurately simulate it."
You will not account for the flaw in the manufacture of the alloy component that happened to be used on a particular aircraft if it was never discovered in the real model for which you've just made a simulated one. However, in simulated usage, the plane may be subjected to extremes that the original pilot(s) never did the real one.
A technicality, perhaps, as unlikely as an insect landing inside the equipment and putting it out of commission; after all, whoever heard of a malfunction because of a bug in the equipment!

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