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KEWR

PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 12:29 pm
by EchoLdrWolf
For Anyone That Wondered What KEWR Looked Like With Maxed Settings And XGraphics. (Plane Is PMDG 747-400X)

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(I Only Get About 3 FPS With All That ^^^ Junk Turned On  :P :P)

Re: KEWR

PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 3:01 pm
by pepper_airborne
It indeed does look nice tough!

Re: KEWR

PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 3:15 pm
by EchoLdrWolf
too bad my PC can't run it all easily =[

Re: KEWR

PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 8:34 pm
by gtirob01
too bad my PC can't run it all easily =[


I know exactly how you feel! But those shots look awesome!

Re: KEWR

PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 8:42 pm
by EchoLdrWolf
thanks, they do look a lot better when they're 1280X1024 :P :P

Re: KEWR

PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 5:07 pm
by Harold
Hmm ... these shots could be very nice but to be brutaly honest I've seen better quality shots coming from FS2002.

I believe your implying that you've paused the sim to take these shots, but you forgot to boost the anti aliasing. If you want to show Newark in its full glory then try to photograph it at midday where you can clearly see all the details. A sunset/dawn with a heavy overcast isn't exactly an ideal condition to take screenshots of an airport you want to show off; ESPECIALLY with a quality add-on like X GRaphics!

Also - you obviously know about compression as all your shots are near 150kb - you might want to think about posting images like these A LOT bigger, so you can see all the nice details of the airport. And you did remember the 150kb rule but forgot about the 600kb rule ...

I love the bird though ... I've always had a thing for UPS' livery ;)

BTW: try to get some traffic in there ... this airport seems way to empyt. Newark is one hell of a busy airport!

Re: KEWR

PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 5:34 pm
by EchoLdrWolf
Hmm ... these shots could be very nice but to be brutaly honest I've seen better quality shots coming from FS2002.

I believe your implying that you've paused the sim to take these shots, but you forgot to boost the anti aliasing. If you want to show Newark in its full glory then try to photograph it at midday where you can clearly see all the details. A sunset/dawn with a heavy overcast isn't exactly an ideal condition to take screenshots of an airport you want to show off; ESPECIALLY with a quality add-on like X GRaphics!

Also - you obviously know about compression as all your shots are near 150kb - you might want to think about posting images like these A LOT bigger, so you can see all the nice details of the airport. And you did remember the 150kb rule but forgot about the 600kb rule ...

I love the bird though ... I've always had a thing for UPS' livery ;)

BTW: try to get some traffic in there ... this airport seems way to empyt. Newark is one hell of a busy airport!


Actually, no i didn't pause for those shots. The bad AA is because of the compression. And i'll see what I can do about the traffic. ;)

Re: KEWR

PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 5:47 pm
by Harold
The bad AA is because of the compression.

Can you please expain that?

Re: KEWR

PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 6:17 pm
by EchoLdrWolf
The bad AA is because of the compression.

Can you please expain that?


Yes, I am compressing all these screens from 1280x1024 to 700x555 AND lowering the quality to make them under 150k. They have sharp lines without the massive compression.

Re: KEWR

PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 6:22 pm
by EchoLdrWolf
without compression, but with 1/2 quality:  (I KNOW THIS FIRST PIC EXCEEDS THE WIDTH LIMIT OF 1024 PIXELS, IT MAY BE REMOVED, I AM JUST SHOWING HOW THE COMPRESSION AFFECTS MY SHOTS)

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with compression, with 1/2 quality (for consitency):


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Re: KEWR

PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 6:26 pm
by EchoLdrWolf
Harold,

Re: KEWR

PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 12:40 pm
by Wii
Well, don't turn down the quality on your shots. Leave it as default. I can max FSX with full AA (with 17FPS :)) and compress from 1685 to 1024 still under the limit.

Re: KEWR

PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 12:48 pm
by todayshorse
Interesting stuff. How are you resizing them?

Im no expert at all this compression and sizing stuff - ive found a way that works for me and tend to stick with it - but I run maxed settings and the highest res in fs9 (ok its not fsx it might be different how it reacts) and i resize to 800x400 in most of my shots but they dont end up 'jaggy' Even compressing to below 150k, and in some cases paint net gets me 120-130kb - move the slider more and its over 150kb - but they dont display jaggies until i get well below 100k?

Even my sig is resized quite tiny, and is only 28kb or somthing, but no noticeable jaggies :-? I guess size plays an important  part (thats what all the girls say ;D)

Very odd!

Re: KEWR

PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 1:42 pm
by EchoLdrWolf
[quote]Interesting stuff. How are you resizing them?

Im no expert at all this compression and sizing stuff - ive found a way that works for me and tend to stick with it - but I run maxed settings and the highest res in fs9 (ok its not fsx it might be different how it reacts) and i resize to 800x400 in most of my shots but they dont end up 'jaggy' Even compressing to below 150k, and in some cases paint net gets me 120-130kb - move the slider more and its over 150kb - but they dont display jaggies until i get well below 100k?

Even my sig is resized quite tiny, and is only 28kb or somthing, but no noticeable jaggies :-? I guess size plays an important

Re: KEWR

PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 4:39 pm
by Harold
The bad AA is because of the compression.

Can you please expain that?


Yes, I am compressing all these screens from 1280x1024 to 700x555 AND lowering the quality to make them under 150k. They have sharp lines without the massive compression.


That is not a correct assumption. Anti aliasing issues are not caused by compressing an image more or less, but they are caused by a videocard that is not setup correctly ...

I use Photoshop CS3's "Save For Web Devices" feature.

Then I think you're not using it correctly ...

When I use 'save for the web' this is what I get in Photoshop CS2 when working on your original 1280 wide image.


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The quality wasn't great to start with as a raw screenshot in BMP format will typically be somewhere between 3 and 5 megabytes.
But still I think it turned out rather nice ...

You obviously don't know how to use the save for the web feature properly or you don't understand how compression works.
Read this, though the rules have changed to 150 kb in the mean time ;)

In that tread you will also read something like this (which I adapted for your situation):

JPG is a nice image format but it uses more compression by default than a BMP. That is why the same BMP will have a larger file size than a JPG.
Run this little test: snag a shot of anything as a BMP and then as a JPG. And now zip both of them ... tell me what you find and how this happens.

I just love that test 8-)