What You Can't See

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What You Can't See

Postby ramsa329 » Sat Mar 12, 2005 8:00 pm

You can't shoot down.

This is one of my all time favorite planes a true marvel of aviation technology.

She is seen here on her maiden flight from Burbank CA. You can see a flash of the flag painted on the underside.

Hope you enjoy!!

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Re: What You Can't See

Postby jordonj » Sat Mar 12, 2005 8:16 pm

Where's this gem come from?
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Re: What You Can't See

Postby ramsa329 » Sat Mar 12, 2005 10:44 pm

It's payware from these people:

http://www.gioclem.com/Payware.htm
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Re: What You Can't See

Postby SideWinder9 » Sun Mar 13, 2005 9:48 am

Nice, as always ramsa...
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Re: What You Can't See

Postby jordonj » Sun Mar 13, 2005 10:39 am

WOW!  There's freeware there too!  Thanks for the tip Ramsa!
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Re: What You Can't See

Postby Threadkiller » Sun Mar 13, 2005 11:12 am

great shots as usual ramsa!  8)


You can't shoot down.


too bad one was shot down over the balkans with a G2A missile...the pilot managed to have more stealth than his aircraft, by evading "enemy" troops for a day and a bit, and getin rescued. i have the pics here somewhere i think...the wreck was shiped the same day to moscow...
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Re: What You Can't See

Postby Ben_M_K » Sun Mar 13, 2005 12:11 pm

I ditto what Jordon said! Some of that freeware looks incredible! :o
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Re: What You Can't See

Postby ramsa329 » Sun Mar 13, 2005 3:36 pm

Here's an interesting read:

"The SA-3 surface-to-air missile that brought down the F-117 was probably not used in a normal fashion, with its operators relying on their own local radars to detect the target leaving them vulnerable to anti-radiation missiles. Spotters in Serbia, and perhaps in Bosnia and along the Montenegrin coast, may have patched together enough quick glimpses of the warplane from scattered radars to track the elusive aircraft, however briefly, and to fire a missile at it from a battery near Belgrade.

Despite the extremely small radar signature of the plane a great amount of time goes into routing the flight path of each stealth fighter to minimize its exposure to known threats such as surface-to-air missile batteries and radar. At certain points in a mission however the stealth fighter can become quite visible to enemy radar. Turning suddenly at low altitudes can reflect radar waves right back to the radars that sent them. The most visible and risky moments are when the bomb bay door is open - briefly making the plane un-stealthy.

Military officials suspect that Serbian spotters, perhaps starting with agents in Italy watching the F-117's take off, were able to determine a time table of how long it took the planes took to cross the Adriatic and from there on to Belgrade. With this information Serbian radar operators had a better sense of when and where to watch for the plane. Once the aircraft's radar reflection crossed their screens all the radar operators would be alerted down the line. When the F-117 dropped one of its two laser guided bombs on a target near Belgrade this probably provided the final clues to fix its position and fire several missiles.

Enough was known to "cue" up the SA-3's own radar so the operator had only to briefly flip it on to track and fire. After the F-117 was shot down other planes on bombing runs recorded instances when the Serbian forces lobbed surface-to-air missiles at them without radar guidance suggesting that this indeed was the tactic used to bring down the stealth jet - minimal or partial radar data guiding a volley of missiles.

Seven hours after the pilot ejected, a commando team snatched the downed pilot from his hiding place and whisked him back to allied hands, first in Bosnia, then to Italy.

Without careful examination of the wreckage some questions may never be answered.

The dense clouds that night may have played a role by allowing the jet black plane to be silhouetted against the dull gray sky by the glow from ground fire reflecting off the cloud ceiling."
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Re: What You Can't See

Postby N556EP » Thu Mar 17, 2005 8:44 pm

Thats not evan Burbank Thats KVNY Van Nuys. but who's looking at the scereny Nice plane
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Re: What You Can't See

Postby ramsa329 » Fri Mar 18, 2005 3:43 am

I am well aware that the first shot is a fly-by over Van Nuys.

I don't always set the shots in order and since I didn't like my shots at Burbank and I did like the low pass at Van Nuys it went first.

But thanks for the heads-up. LOL
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Re: What You Can't See

Postby planespotter » Fri Mar 18, 2005 8:59 am

Great shots Ramsa, this is a great model.

He has uploaded my skins I did for these to his site as well.  ;)
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Re: What You Can't See

Postby flyboy 28 » Fri Mar 18, 2005 5:51 pm

Nice shots, but did you pay twenty bucks for an F-117 with an American flag on the bottom? ::)

Almost a target for daytime missions. :P
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Re: What You Can't See

Postby ramsa329 » Fri Mar 18, 2005 6:46 pm

No I did not pay $20.00 for an F-117 with a flag on the bottom.

The flag on the bottom was a one time only paint-job for the test flight of the real plane and is historically correct.

There are many other paint-jobs that come with the model. 5 when you buy it and more on the website
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Re: What You Can't See

Postby Fitter » Sat Mar 19, 2005 9:34 am

cant see nothing....just kidding awesome shots...
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Re: What You Can't See

Postby Drake » Thu Mar 24, 2005 1:36 am

I bought that plane a few months back. It's very nice. I just can't see any landing lights in the cockpit view. I love the drag chute. Looks like Icarus Gold is releasing it soon. Maybe there is an update.
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