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Do you like the 787 or not. I really like it. It looks like it will be successful once Boeing can get it flying. (If they ever do! )

It looks good but i am not sure about the cockpit

The company I work for has ordered 25. I will reserve judgement until I have spannered on it for a while

Matt

It looks really nice, but it's not THE nicest Boeing. The 757 will always be #1 in my mind.

Only thing I don't like is how Boeing says, the plane is state of the Art but they still have the Wright Brothers Yoke in the flight deck.

They use a Fly By Wire Joystick on the Yoke bottom on the C-17 that they have been building since 1987, and said because it has the force feed back, and motors that work in auto pilot that the system could be certified to work with any of there fly by wire designs, but yet they don't.

It's nearly 2010 with digital every thing, and yet the 1903 yoke is still in these aircraft. It's not the 50's any more where 100% of the flight controls had pulleys and cables that ran to and from the Flight deck vie the yoke.  Airbus took a big risk, with the side stick, but man does it safe on space. Even the Embraer modified the yoke some bit so it was not the same, I forget which plane, but they have the yoke coming out the side twords the middle, so the air crew have more space, and it looks neater.

Only thing I don't like is how Boeing says, the plane is state of the Art but they still have the Wright Brothers Yoke in the flight deck.

Not sure what they mean by that. The Wright Brothers didn't use a yoke. Their aircraft were controlled by levers & a hip cradle for the roll axis.

Also, they did that because the 777 has a yoke, and the 787 was designed to require the absolute minimum cross training.

Ugly as hell...well, the front is anyway. It looks like a 1950's futuristic jet conception. It's almost as bad as the A380!

The wing design looks pretty cool though.

It seems that it could be quite a successful aircraft. Will have to see how the A350 copes with it when it gets rolled out

Alec

Also, they did that because the 777 has a yoke, and the 787 was designed to require the absolute minimum cross training.

Excuses, is that what they are going to say in 2025, when they make the new plane, "well we made it so you could come over from the 787 to the 7XX more easily" like how the 777 before it, and the 767, 757, 747, 737, 727, B-52, B-17. They need to put in a joystick of some sort, after all it is going to be a new generation of pilots flying, not ex WWII pilots that can't adapt to modern technology.

I'm just saying that not having a yoke is both a weight saver, and is proven in fighter jets and the C-17, so they can be used easily on heavies. The pilots that fly both the C-17, and commercial jets say it does not take that long to get used too.

Also for safety it is easier to exit the flight deck during an emergency, less equipment in the way, and your knees can slide out with out hitting any thing.