Raptor in service (at last)

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Raptor in service (at last)

Postby ozzy72 » Fri Dec 16, 2005 3:07 am

NORFOLK, Va. (AP) - The F-22A Raptor, an advanced stealth fighter jet in development since the 1980s, is ready for combat, the Air Force announced Thursday.
``If we have to go out the door to a conflict that starts tomorrow, we're going to take the Raptor with us,'' said Gen. Ronald E. Keys, head of Air Combat Command, at Langley Air Force Base.
The Raptor has reached ``initial operational capability,'' the Air Force said, meaning it is certified as ready to fight and supported by a properly trained and equipped force. It also means the aircraft is qualified to fly homeland defense missions, officials said.
The Air Force says the fighter will ensure America's air dominance for years to come.
Critics, however, say the Raptor is too expensive at a time when U.S. combat aircraft already dominate the skies, and that it was designed for a high-tech enemy that no longer exists - the Soviet Union.
Previously designated the F/A-22, the Raptor was intended primarily as a stealthy replacement for the F-15 Eagle, which was built to shoot down other planes. Unlike its predecessor, the Raptor can fly at supersonic speeds for long distances.
The Raptor is the most expensive aircraft in the Air Force's inventory, said Doug Karas, an Air Force spokesman in Washington.
The most recent Raptors, not including research and development, cost about $133 million each to produce, he said. With research, development and testing, the cost is about $350 million per aircraft, he said.
So far, the Air Force has 56 Raptors, including training and test fighters, at Langley, Nellis Air Force Base in Nevada, Tyndall Air Force Base in Florida and Edwards Air Force Base in California. The current budget plans include about 180, and the Air Force wants more, Karas said.
Twelve jets will head to Alaska in June for their first routine peacetime exercise deployment, Keys said. The first combat-ready Raptors are flying with the 27th Fighter Squadron of the 1st Fighter Wing, at Langley.
Analyst John Pike called the Raptor ``the greatest air-to-air fighter plane ever built.''
``You've got an airplane that the enemy cannot see that ... can maneuver around the sky very quickly,'' said Pike, director of GlobalSecurity.org, a research center on security issues. ``You just would not want to go up against it because you would know that you would lose.''
It's too soon to tell whether the Raptor will be worth the expense, though, Pike said.
``You do have to wonder who we're going to use it against,'' he said.

Air Force fact sheet on Raptor: http://www.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=199
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Re: Raptor in service (at last)

Postby gryshnak » Fri Dec 16, 2005 5:01 am

Has anyone done that in FS2004 yet?

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Re: Raptor in service (at last)

Postby Craig. » Fri Dec 16, 2005 8:05 am

For long range interception I'd take the raptor. In the highly unlikely event of a dogfight I would take a Typhoon. I like the F22 but its just too expensive.
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Re: Raptor in service (at last)

Postby killerbunny » Fri Dec 16, 2005 9:28 am

Has anyone done that in FS2004 yet?

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there is an ito raptor in the fs2004 military pages
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Re: Raptor in service (at last)

Postby F-16Viper » Sat Jan 21, 2006 2:12 pm

For long range interception I'd take the raptor. In the highly unlikely event of a dogfight I would take a Typhoon. I like the F22 but its just too expensive.


no kidding, at $150,000,000 or one hundred fifty million dollars each.

but the b-2 is $2 billion so its not the most expensive
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Re: Raptor in service (at last)

Postby Craig. » Sat Jan 21, 2006 2:35 pm

yeah but the B2 is pretty unique in that only a few are being made. The Raptor they plan to make god knows how many of them. And it isn't like there arn't suitable alternatives for much less cost.
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Re: Raptor in service (at last)

Postby Mobius » Sun Jan 22, 2006 5:02 pm

I read a little while ago that the first deployment of the Raptor was to Nellis AFB from Tyndall in Florida to avoid the Hurricanes.  If this is true, it's kind of funny that one of the first things that Raptor did was run away. :D  But this could be totally wrong and I am just a big, forgettful dummy, but hey, it entertains me. ;D ;)
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Re: Raptor in service (at last)

Postby ozzy72 » Sun Jan 22, 2006 5:33 pm

funny that one of the first things that Raptor did was run away

Are the Italian AF buying them? ;D
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Re: Raptor in service (at last)

Postby Mobius » Sun Jan 22, 2006 11:27 pm

Are the Italian AF buying them? ;D


Them and the French AF. ;D

Sorry to anyone from France and Italy, it was just a joke. ;)
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Re: Raptor in service (at last)

Postby RHeite » Thu Jan 26, 2006 11:45 am

(to join in the fun)

The French variants are going to be an all white paint scheme.
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Re: Raptor in service (at last)

Postby Theis » Thu Jan 26, 2006 1:26 pm

;D ;D ;D
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Re: Raptor in service (at last)

Postby F-16Viper » Thu Jan 26, 2006 2:47 pm

(to join in the fun)

The French variants are going to be an all white paint scheme.


i think they like hot pink better ;D ;D ;D


(let me know if thats dumb ;D)
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Re: Raptor in service (at last)

Postby ozzy72 » Thu Jan 26, 2006 3:10 pm

If you think French pilots are shirleys go to http://www.simviation.com/acinstall.htm click on Military and go down to the Rafale Near-Splash! video :o HARDCORE 8)
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Re: Raptor in service (at last)

Postby C » Thu Jan 26, 2006 3:15 pm

;D ;D ;D
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Great find Theis! ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Raptor in service (at last)

Postby Woodlouse2002 » Thu Jan 26, 2006 3:59 pm

If you think French pilots are shirleys go to http://www.simviation.com/acinstall.htm click on Military and go down to the Rafale Near-Splash! video :o HARDCORE 8)

That just proves they can't build a carrier. :P
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