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Mcdonell Douglas 220

Postby The Ruptured Duck » Mon Dec 05, 2005 6:06 pm

Someone asked me about a plane they saw that has 4 underwing engines, low wing, and it about the size of an RJ or smaller.  I looked it up and I got the Convair 220.  

Holy crap its fast!  The cruise speed is 675mph.  I need to find more info on it.
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Re: Mcdonell Douglas 220

Postby Felix/FFDS » Mon Dec 05, 2005 6:45 pm

MOre details, please - McDonnell DOuglas?
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Re: Mcdonell Douglas 220

Postby Theis » Wed Dec 07, 2005 1:46 pm

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The four-engine Model 119/220 was the first business, non-airline-type jet aircraft to receive an FAA Class I provisional type certificate as airworthy in the transport category.

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Re: Mcdonell Douglas 220

Postby Felix/FFDS » Wed Dec 07, 2005 2:45 pm

Curiously, it's not that far off the shape conceived for the DC-9 .... before it got "shrunk" to a twin engined design...
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Re: Mcdonell Douglas 220

Postby Craig. » Wed Dec 07, 2005 2:57 pm

Curiously, it's not that far off the shape conceived for the DC-9 .... before it got "shrunk" to a twin engined design...

If you ignore the Pointy nose, the short fuselage the fact it isn't a T-tail. :)
Then again I haven't seen the original designs for the DC9 so I better shut-up. :-X
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Re: Mcdonell Douglas 220

Postby Felix/FFDS » Wed Dec 07, 2005 3:24 pm

If you ignore the Pointy nose, the short fuselage the fact it isn't a T-tail. :)
Then again I haven't seen the original designs for the DC9 so I better shut-up. :-X



Jane's 1962-63 Edition ( the one with the Mile 218) describes the "DC-9" then in the design change with a 3-view and description as a small (main landing gears with just twin tires) 4-engined DC_8 looking bird.



So I guess that you haven't seen the proposals for a joint venture between Fokker and Boeing for the F.30 - basically a 737 fuselage with an F.28 type cockpit and T-tail, wing mounted podded engines?
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Re: Mcdonell Douglas 220

Postby Craig. » Wed Dec 07, 2005 3:29 pm

I hadn't seen either, I'll have to keep an eye open for one of these types of books. My collection is embaressingly small.
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Re: Mcdonell Douglas 220

Postby Jakemaster » Tue Dec 13, 2005 6:04 pm

It looks like a baby 707!  Almost fake looking
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Re: Mcdonell Douglas 220

Postby TacitBlue » Tue Dec 13, 2005 6:23 pm

I never thought I would say this about a four-engine jet, but: Awww, its cute!! ;D
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Re: Mcdonell Douglas 220

Postby Felix/FFDS » Wed Dec 14, 2005 11:30 am

I hadn't seen either, I'll have to keep an eye open for one of these types of books. My collection is embaressingly small.


C:  A couple of my treasure chests (and who said eBay isn't good) have been the purchase of a set of Air Enthusiast issues from the 1975-87 era, and a simliar purchase, Aeroplane Monthly 1975-1990 ...  Especially the Air Enthusiast magazines (and their current incarncation, Air International, Air Enthusiast) highlighted "current" developments with 3-views, information etc.  

Where else would I have found out about the various Boeing plans for a 727 follow up?  What ended up being the 757 had, at a time, a t-tail ...  the 767 was *almost* a 3-engined bird.  There was a twin L-1011 in the plans ...  on and on.

The airplanes that didn't make it are just as interesting as the ones that did.  I have a soft spot for the Ahrens 404 (namely because it would have been built in Puerto Rico), a decent, robust design that didn't have the necessary capital behind it.  

Then there are always the "Janes All the World's Aircraft" issues.  (A Piper four engined commuter mini-airliner???) ...
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Re: Mcdonell Douglas 220

Postby Hai Perso Coyone? » Thu Dec 15, 2005 12:52 pm

Nice looking thing...looks like a mini DC-8 8)
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Re: Mcdonell Douglas 220

Postby Felix/FFDS » Thu Dec 15, 2005 1:58 pm

Nice looking thing...looks like a mini DC-8 8)



The interesting thing is that this was pre-merger days!!
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