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Boeing 707?

PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2003 3:27 pm
by Rivers
I suggested a new forum and Pete told me to try it first to see if it works.

Here is the idea:
I bet there is an enormous amount of information about aviation in the minds of the users of this forum so we could have a forum were every month a user or moderator would randomly select an aircraft and everyone could tell what they know about it.


Ok so the first one will be the Boeing 707 tell everything you know freely

Re: What do you know about this airplane?

PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2003 3:48 pm
by HawkerTempest5
The last new build 707 airframes that came off the Boeing production line were the RAF's E3Ds

Re: What do you know about this airplane?

PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2003 4:22 pm
by loomex
OK...the KC135 is NOT a military version of the 707. The dash 80 was a prototype aircraft that Boeing was making with the hope the military would buy it. The 707 is actualy bigger than the 135.  The E-3 AWACS is in fact a modified 707.
The reason I know this is that me and a friend had a friendly discussion with a boom operator on a KC-135. He insisted the plane was a 707 that was converted. It took a 135 pilot to shove a book into the kids face to prove him wrong

I think that this is a great idea. First one can get a load of info about a plane, and maybe staighten out misinformation.
Chris

Re: What do you know about this airplane?

PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2003 7:53 pm
by Fly2e
Posted by: BR_ Posted on: Today at 5:27pm
I suggested a new forum and Pete told me to try it first to see if it works.

Here is the idea:



I think this is a great idea!
Dave  ;)

Re: What do you know about this airplane?

PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2003 10:37 pm
by SilverFox441
There are two military version of the offspring of the Dash 80.

First is the workhorse C-135 (better known in it's KC-135 version). This is a slightly smaller an narrower version that is more in keeping with the original.

The second version is the C-137 (better known as the B707). The old AF One was a VC-137 and the Canadian Armed Forces planes were all CC-137's.

The extra fuselage width allowed for two extra seats and was made at the request of teh airlines. :)

Re: What do you know about this airplane?

PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2003 8:07 am
by ATI_7500
my favourite 707 is the 120b.
and it was the basis for many other planes ,like the 727 or the 737.

Re: What do you know about this airplane?

PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2003 10:53 am
by ozzy72
Wasn't the original Airforce One a 707? I'm not sure as at my age most of the braincells are dead or in hiding!

Ozzy ???

Re: What do you know about this airplane?

PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2003 12:13 pm
by loomex
Wasn't the original Airforce One a 707? I'm not sure as at my age most of the braincells are dead or in hiding!

Ozzy ???


they must be just hiding, cuz you are right

Re: What do you know about this airplane?

PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2003 2:11 pm
by Maccers
Wasn't the original Airforce One a 707?

I think that might have been the second Presidential airliner. Wasn't there a DC-3 or other radial prop before the 707 ???

Re: What do you know about this airplane?

PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2003 8:08 pm
by RichieB16
A Boeing 707 served as Air Force 1 for 28 years.  I think it spent a longer time as Air Force 1 than any other plane, it's career ended during the Regan administration.  Here's a bad picture (the best I could find) that shows it in this function.

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Re: What do you know about this airplane?

PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2003 10:56 pm
by Professor Brensec
I don't have alot of specific info on particular planes (but each day the file gets larger), thanks to this forum and the minds herein.
A good idea BR. Hope to see the Forum sub-heading.

A simple fact as far as I know is the 707 was the first commercial jetliner ever. (Courtesy of the History Channel which I could not do without. Sometimes the simple facts are more interesting, and important than the technical and involved ones..............lol ;D)

Also courtesy of the History Channel. There was definitely an Air Force One before the 707. I recall seeing both Truman and Ike alighting from one in the Special Doco about the same plane and its' history.
(I'm not sure it was named Air Force One but it was a plane specially reserved for Presidential use only).  ;D ;)

Re: What do you know about this airplane?

PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2003 11:33 pm
by Oso
Coulda swore that the Brits had a jet liner first - it crashed and there was scandal - so they took it out real quick - or something like that - the one with the 2 jet engines in each wing root I think. Meteor maybe?

Just did a quick search - Comet was the first large commercial jet airliner - and she was a Brit. Predecessor to the Nimrod.

Just saw a bunch of pics of the Nimrod - man that is one You-gly plane. Glad I wasn't trying to eat when I saw that. :o

Re: What do you know about this airplane?

PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2003 12:49 am
by Rivers
Yes the comet was the firs commercial jet liner and its crashes were caused by stress in the fuselage because of its big windows and pressurization. I think the 707 was the first presidential airplane that was a flying white house and called Air Force One, also there is the first prototype that is in a museum somewhere called the Dash 80.
If I

Re: What do you know about this airplane?

PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2003 1:02 am
by Professor Brensec
Seems my History Channel info is not exactly correct.
Sorry people, but it's not the first time.

History Channel have probably taken the phrase "first SUCCESSFUL" jetliner" and used some license.

I've come across this before. I have them on tape (of course) with regard to most of the assersions I make, and attribute to them. (I tape all the Aircraft and WWII episodes, when I can).
Another instance that comes to mind, which Hawker is aware of. They clearly state in a promotion of an upcoming Doco of the P38, that it was "responsible for shooting down the most aircraft in WWII". It turns out in the program itself, they "adjust" this with the phrase "most JAPANESE aircraft in WWII".

I should learn to be more careful of their EXACT meaning...............lol ;D

Thanks for the corrected info.    ;D ;)

Re: What do you know about this airplane?

PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2003 1:30 am
by BFMF
I like the idea of an aircraft theme every month! :)