Tri-Motors and Flying Boats

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Re:  Tri-Motors and Flying Boats

Postby Woodlouse2002 » Sun Nov 05, 2006 12:03 pm

As I said we have the RYA to thank for that. They spend huge amounts of time talking to the folk who make the rules making sure that the sea is avaliable to everyone. At the moment their biggest battle is stopping the EU from putting road tax on our marine diesel.
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Re:  Tri-Motors and Flying Boats

Postby Anark » Mon Nov 06, 2006 5:13 pm

Does anybody know whatever happened to the Saunders Roe Princess?
Were they all scrapped?
I ask becasue my grandad can remember seeing them all cocooned up.
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Postby Hagar » Mon Nov 06, 2006 6:58 pm

Does anybody know whatever happened to the Saunders Roe Princess?
Were they all scrapped?
I ask becasue my grandad can remember seeing them all cocooned up.

I also remember seeing the two cocooned at Calshot from the Isle of Wight ferry when I was a lad. According to this they were all broken up in the 1960s. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saro_Princess

PS. I also saw one demonstrated at the Farnborough Air Show in 1952. That seems an awful long time ago now. :o
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Re:  Tri-Motors and Flying Boats

Postby beaky » Mon Nov 06, 2006 8:16 pm

I also remember seeing the two cocooned at Calshot from the Isle of Wight ferry when I was a lad. According to this they were all broken up in the 1960s. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saro_Princess

PS. I also saw one demonstrated at the Farnborough Air Show in 1952. That seems an awful long time ago now. :o


Tragic. Would've been nice to preserve just one, even if it wasn't going to fly anymore.   :-/
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Postby Hagar » Tue Nov 07, 2006 3:42 am

[quote]Tragic. Would've been nice to preserve just one, even if it wasn't going to fly anymore.
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Re:  Tri-Motors and Flying Boats

Postby Ivan » Tue Nov 07, 2006 2:18 pm

Trimotors:
Fokker FVIIB, or the USA counterpart (separate models!!)

Flying boats / Amphibians:
Do-24 which was designed for the Dutch Navy
Amtorg GST... first Catalina with glass humps on the back but with russian engines, later (as KM-2) got 2x1800HP.
Lots of Beriev stuff like the Be-6 (large flying boat), Be-10 (fastest flying boat ever made), Be-12 (amphibian), A-40 (amphibian)

Weid stuff like Ekranoplans and other WIG craft
Bartini VVA-14
Russian planes: IL-76 (all standard length ones),  Tu-154 and Il-62, Tu-134 and [url=http://an24.uw.hu/]An-24RV[/ur
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Re:  Tri-Motors and Flying Boats

Postby FLYING_TRUCKER » Tue Nov 07, 2006 2:42 pm

Hi folks:  :)

Many of us have discussed this at many different meetings and we all agreed that "Museums" are a part of our heritage and are a wonderful "Educational" tool, not just for the young, but everyone.

It is too bad our political leaders cover their heads in red tape and only remove it when they want a raise!  :P

I do remember seeing an aircraft and I think it was a flying boat (just can't remember) and they were testing a hydrofoil type of landing gear on it.
I don't recall the company or country that was doing that or what ever came of the idea.

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Postby Hagar » Tue Nov 07, 2006 7:38 pm

I do remember seeing an aircraft and I think it was a flying boat (just can't remember) and they were testing a hydrofoil type of landing gear on it.
I don't recall the company or country that was doing that or what ever came of the idea.

The only one I can think of is the Convair Sea Dart. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F2Y_Sea_Dart
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Re:  Tri-Motors and Flying Boats

Postby FLYING_TRUCKER » Tue Nov 07, 2006 8:35 pm

Hi Doug:  :)

Nope I remember that one.  :)

I wonder did someone try fitting a C130 "Herc" like an aircushion vehicle for landing on water, mud, snow, grass and hard surfaces?

The next time I am down at Canadian Forces Base Trenton I will ask at SPAR as I believe that is where I saw a picture or heard a story about it.
That is why I was thinking about a Flying Boat as that is what it looked like.
Those fellas at SPAR are all retired Royal Canadian Air Force, Canadian Forces and a mixed bag of everything else.
They work for the Canadian Military and have locations everywhere.  They have three in this immediate area and two are at Military Bases.
I am sure their techniques are also employed by the RCAF Memorial Museum on occassions and they have helped me out many times with odd little jobs.

I shall look into this when I get down there as that is the only place I can think of.  ;)

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Postby Ivan » Wed Nov 08, 2006 3:47 pm

[quote]Hi Doug:
Russian planes: IL-76 (all standard length ones),  Tu-154 and Il-62, Tu-134 and [url=http://an24.uw.hu/]An-24RV[/ur
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Postby Hagar » Wed Nov 08, 2006 3:58 pm

I wonder did someone try fitting a C130 "Herc" like an aircushion vehicle for landing on water, mud, snow, grass and hard surfaces?

Is this what you're thinking of? 8) http://www.flug-revue.rotor.com/FRHeft7X/FRHeft75/FRH7501/FR7501c.htm
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Re:  Tri-Motors and Flying Boats

Postby Souichiro » Wed Nov 08, 2006 7:02 pm

Reading Dougs threads on the Japanese stuff in the merlin thread and remembering this one remembered me about their giant aircraft carrier subs... Further research found me the below threads..

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/ ... 1111096194

The Japanese I-400 class on wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-400_class_submarine

Some other nations tried that as well

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submarine_aircraft_carrier

Hope you find it interesting
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Re:  Tri-Motors and Flying Boats

Postby FLYING_TRUCKER » Wed Nov 08, 2006 9:59 pm

Wow some very interesting reading/sites there folks...thank you very much.  ;)

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Postby FLYING_TRUCKER » Sun Nov 12, 2006 7:56 am

Just read "Rifleman's" thread "Oh No"
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Re:  Tri-Motors and Flying Boats

Postby Hagar » Sun Nov 12, 2006 8:08 am

Sad news indeed on the Martin Mars. The Saro Princess was considerably larger although it never went into production. Only one of the three prototypes ever flew.

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[color=Blue]Specifications (JRM-3 Mars)

[i]Data from Jane
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