Tri-Motors and Flying Boats

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Postby Woodlouse2002 » Sun Oct 29, 2006 10:57 am

I found a couple of Fairey flying boats but lost the link now. ::) Wish I could be more specific. The history of the early days of Fairey Aviation seems a little obscure.

I don't think the flying boats need to be tri-motors. That must deserve a bonus. :)

My special book has a few Fairey floatplanes in it. Still can't find any Fairey flying boats though. It's not easy trying to find out about the companies early history but so far all early Fairey types have been relatively small aircraft (no more than three crew). Where as most flying boats were quite a lot larger.
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Re:  Tri-Motors and Flying Boats

Postby FLYING_TRUCKER » Sun Oct 29, 2006 11:09 am

Gentlemen...Thank you one and all.  :)

I shall be a bit busy now looking up the sites that you posted.
I know for a fact some of these aircraft I have never heard of.  :o

The weather here is rain mixed with a wet snow.
The barn and hangar are buttoned down and everything here is ship shape Bristol fashion.  ;)

The clocks went back a hour last night and the old girl is on her way to church.
I did not go to church as I know the good Lord would want me to check out these sites you all posted right away.  :)

Thanks everyone.

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Postby Hagar » Sun Oct 29, 2006 11:11 am

Still can't find any Fairey flying boats though.

Here's a couple. The Atlanta & Titania. They look a fair size. http://www.flyingboats.ca/FlyingBoats-old/British/British.html

I found that article I was looking for. http://www.wfel.co.uk/corp_dloads/AHistoryofFaireyEngineerin.doc

PS. Here's a pretty comprehensive list of seaplanes and flying boats. Should keep you busy for a while Doug. ;) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_flying_boats_and_seaplanes
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Re:  Tri-Motors and Flying Boats

Postby FLYING_TRUCKER » Sun Oct 29, 2006 1:11 pm

Thanks Doug...shall get on it shortly.  ;)

I was watching a yacht about 40 foot trying to make it around the bend in the river here.
With the winds gusting to close to 50 mph at times and the water current he seemed to be having a bad time of it.  
We have rain mixed with wet snow and there are white caps on the river, I would say the waves are close to two or three feet high.
I would have thought a yacht that size would have at least two engines and lots of power.
I could see the spray coming over his bow as he was trying to make the turn, he finally made it.

Thanks for the sites.  :)

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Postby Woodlouse2002 » Sun Oct 29, 2006 1:47 pm

[quote]Thanks Doug...shall get on it shortly.
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Postby FLYING_TRUCKER » Mon Oct 30, 2006 7:37 pm

Hi Woodlouse 2002... :)

Nope it was not a sail boat but an approximately 40 Foot
motorized yacht.
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Re:  Tri-Motors and Flying Boats

Postby Woodlouse2002 » Mon Oct 30, 2006 8:36 pm

If it was a motor boat then it would have had twin screws, and at least 200hp. And if it was fairly new then it would have had a bow thrust too. And if the skipper still made a hash of tackling a bend in a river then he shouldn't be allowed afloat.

Presumably seaplanes and flying boats would be more affected by wind that currents due to their shallow draught. Naturally when on the water the aeroplane is going to go where the water goes but in a wind against current situation I should imagine that the wind has the most obvious effect.
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Re:  Tri-Motors and Flying Boats

Postby Souichiro » Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:50 am

Hi Doug! Interesting read!

The Russian Water plane you mentioned might be the Ekranoplane or look here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6HQSNERadQ

technically it aint a plane but on might classify it as such.

About the Japanese amphibs I couldn't think of much more that the Kawanishi " Mavis"

http://www.vectorsite.net/avemily.html


Hope it helps a bit

Ow yeah an italian company which did much with seaplanes is  Savoia Marchetti
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Re:  Tri-Motors and Flying Boats

Postby FLYING_TRUCKER » Wed Nov 01, 2006 7:43 pm

Hi Souichiro:

Yes I agree I am sure that Japan had many more Sea Planes and Flying Boats than what I mentioned.  However my conversation with this gentleman did not mention them.  :)

Thank you for the two sites they shall be productive I assure you.

Thanks again for your input as well.  ;)

Hi Woodlouse:

Thanks for your input on my comment off subject.

Being a boat owner/operator without a Marine Captains Licence  in Canada I believe anything over 55 (Fifty Five) Feet in length requires a Marine Captains Licence/Medicals/etc.

There are many boats here 40 (Forty Feet and more) without bow thrusters or thrusters of any kind.

Maneuvering  aircraft or  boats on rivers is not quite the simple task it looks.  Too many factors have to be taken into consideration and to get into that would put us way off topic.  ;)

Thanks for your input though.  ;)

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Postby Woodlouse2002 » Wed Nov 01, 2006 7:54 pm

[quote]Hi Woodlouse:

Thanks for your input on my comment off subject.

Being a boat owner/operator without a Marine Captains Licence
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Re:  Tri-Motors and Flying Boats

Postby FLYING_TRUCKER » Thu Nov 02, 2006 7:46 pm

Hi Woodlouse:
Here you need a licence for just about everything now, motor bikes, dirt bikes, trikes, quad runners, just about all boats (I am not sure about canoes or rubber rafts) or they might have to be licenced by size as well.

Right now hull insurance on seaplanes and floatplanes is very expensive.  If you are going to have either a seaplane or floatplane to justify the insurance in my humble opinion one must fly at least ten to fifteen hours a month on type.
The old girl and I are doubling that on our Cessna 172 and that is each of us.
Therefore we can justify the cost of the aircraft and I know we could justify the purchase of a seaplane or floatplane if I could find one at the right price and suitable for the two of us.

I have only got too several of the sites the folks have posted here but they sure are interesting.
The design of some of these aircraft and the interiors are wonderful.  ;)

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Re:  Tri-Motors and Flying Boats

Postby Woodlouse2002 » Thu Nov 02, 2006 8:24 pm

Here in England for an average sized boat (under 60 feet certainly) you need no qualifications to command it privately. And long may it last. The RYA is constantly bickering with the government to keep it that way and so far they've succeeded. To get an RYA certificate of competence you just have to join the RYA and pay a
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Re:  Tri-Motors and Flying Boats

Postby FLYING_TRUCKER » Sat Nov 04, 2006 11:28 am

Hi Woodlouse:  :)

For a seafaring nation which is licenced and taxed for just about everything I am surprised to hear you can rent or operate a 10 foot rowboat without a licence.  :)

I agree some modes of transportation need to be licenced and there should be a way to insure an operator is current on type but sometimes governments just get plain silly on their licencing and instead of looking at the situation from a safety issue all they see is a cheap tax grab.  :P

Give the government time and they will try to find a way to make a Flying Boat Pilot have a licence to operate a boat as well.   :o   ;D LOL   :-X

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Postby Woodlouse2002 » Sat Nov 04, 2006 12:01 pm

[quote]Hi Woodlouse:
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Re:  Tri-Motors and Flying Boats

Postby FLYING_TRUCKER » Sun Nov 05, 2006 11:12 am

Hi Woodlouse:  :)

I can see where a commercial operator would require a Marine Licence however I find it odd there is no licencing for private operators like there is here.  :)

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