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2019, D-Day's 75th

PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 8:11 am
by H
A year from this June 6, 2018, marks 75 years since the Allied invasion of Normandy and Operation Overlord; they not only landed on the beach but dropped inland from the air. Most of us Stateside and around the world may not have the opportunity to attend but, for those of you in Britain and France, there's ticket info at the bottom of the page.
2019, D-Day's 75th
(forgive their typos)


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Re: 2019, D-Day's 75th

PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:48 am
by Fozzer
1st September 1939 - 2nd September 1945.

Germany and Japan.

When the conflagration finally ended...>>>>

http://www.primaryhomeworkhelp.co.uk/war/end.html

I was 5 years old when it started in 1939, and 11 years old when it finally ended on the 2nd September 1945.

Time for lots of Street Parties!

I remember much of it today!

...and today we buy BMW's and Honda's.... :o ..... ;) ....!

Paul...... A war-time evacuee from the City of London!

Re: 2019, D-Day's 75th

PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 12:54 pm
by Jean Loup
Fozzer wrote:1st September 1939 - 2nd September 1945.

Germany and Japan.

When the conflagration finally ended...>>>>

http://www.primaryhomeworkhelp.co.uk/war/end.html

I was 5 years old when it started in 1939, and 11 years old when it finally ended on the 2nd September 1945.

Time for lots of Street Parties!

I remember much of it today!

...and today we buy BMW's and Honda's.... :o ..... ;) ....!

Paul...... A war-time evacuee from the City of London!


HOLA PAUL
Me mexican now -like a friend of mine said "los mexicanos nacemos donde se nos dá la chingada gana"- was post-war refugee in Pamplona. Learned another language & started primary school.
jean <<q

Re: 2019, D-Day's 75th

PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 12:00 pm
by Apex
Thanks for that. I always remember December 7th, 1941 and June 6th, 1944 as being important dates in WW2 and also history.

Re: 2019, D-Day's 75th

PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 7:39 am
by H
Fozzer wrote:1st September 1939 - 2nd September 1945...
... A war-time evacuee from the City of London!
London Blitz.. but Germany eventually paid with the Berlin Qits. I worked with a former Nazi Youth member who migrated to the U.S. after the war; he said the children played on the unexploded bombs. There was nowhere to evacuate for the common civilians -- the Russians pushing in from the east and the other Allies invading from the west and south.
My parents were married, paid by courtesy of a local Brooklyn Pepsi bottling company, by an Army chaplain the month after Germany's surrender; however, i wasn't walking on this planet until the Forgotten War (Korea).



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Re: 2019, D-Day's 75th

PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 7:56 am
by Apex
I always mark 12.07.41 and 06.06.44 as days respect and remembrance for those who gave their lives so that we here and now, and many there and then, could live in a free society. We owe them more than we can give. But we can give them this:

"Every person in this auditorium is under the protection of our American flag. If you don't want to recite the Pledge of Allegiance, you don't have to recite the Pledge of Allegiance, but you will stand in respect while the rest of us do."

- My 10th grade auditorium homeroom teacher, 1965.

The very next day, the few sitters stood in silence while the rest of us paid our respects to those who gave their lives just so we could be standing there reciting the Pledge.

It was the best high school lesson I learned, and have never forgotten it.

Re: 2019, D-Day's 75th

PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:22 pm
by hertzie
Please take a look at the "DAKS over Normandy"- site and if you can afford it, sponsor them. I do hope they'll manage and if I'm still alive I'll be there June 6th next year.

hertzie

Re: 2019, D-Day's 75th

PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:13 pm
by Hoorf
hertzie wrote:Please take a look at the "DAKS over Normandy"- site and if you can afford it, sponsor them. I do hope they'll manage and if I'm still alive I'll be there June 6th next year.

hertzie

I hope you make it...seriously. Also, for those not in the know, the C-47 "That's All, Brother" will again lead the charge like it did 75 years before, the very first C-47 to get aloft and over the drop site on D-Day. They accidentally found the plane, languishing, in Wisconsin; they bought it after realizing what they had, fully restored it to flying condition. I got to see the live feed of the first restoration flight, it was incredible. I wanted to do the 75th Anniversary drop in Normandy but couldn't raise the money for jump school or the trip. :(

Re: 2019, D-Day's 75th

PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 8:33 am
by Bofredrik
Let us agree with one thing:

WAR I WRONG.
Several countries sent their young men (and some woman)
to be killed in WW2.
An estimated total 70-85 million people perished.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties

NO heroes. Only victims.

Re: 2019, D-Day's 75th

PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:48 pm
by Hoorf
Bofredrik wrote:Let us agree with one thing:

WAR I WRONG.
Several countries sent their young men (and some woman)
to be killed in WW2.
An estimated total 70-85 million people perished.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties

NO heroes. Only victims.

I've been reading some of your other comments on this subject and as proactively inflammatory as they tend to be, you are right in this much: war IS wrong. Even mainland Europe said so before WW2, excepting Germany. They were still cleaning up after WW1. But why do you seem to attack those who (eventually) reacted and responded to that belligerence, who tried to keep neutral until it was no longer possible? You seem to have no words against the aggressors. Would you rather that we all stood aside and let Hitler have that "free hand" he demanded between 1938 and 1945? Hitler wanted war, prayed for it, tested his neighbors for it; he was snagging up neighboring countries by force, slaughtering thousands (which would turn to millions), killing not only soldiers but committing genocides of Romanians, Czechs, Poles, the Russians and more...with a special emphasis on Jews. And he would've succeeded. I have Dutch Jew relatives who both survived and died in concentration and extermination camps. It was easy for a fanatical German people to look upon their neighbors as untermenschen and attack them without conscience; they believed themselves ethically, ethnically, morally and genetically superior. I guess it helped them sleep at night.

On the matter of genocides, I have, in my own lifetime, seen a genocide of nearly one million Rwandan Tutsi men, women, children and babies...hacked by machete-wielding Rwandan Hutus. This was not spur-of-the-moment...this was well-foreplanned. This occurred in the summer months of 1994...and absolutely NOBODY of power or influence ran interference against it. And that included President Clinton.

War is wrong...but to do nothing against the war-crazed is far, far worse.

I don't really enjoy rhetoric; in fact, I directly oppose it. So here I am. I am one of the lucky few who was born in an era whereas between 18-26 years later we'd not be involved in another major conflict involving a draft and death. I am that lucky. I trained in the US Army in early '88 for 51 days before several other new recruits and myself were suddenly released and sent home due to the Gramm-Rudman-Hollings Emergency Act (to balance the federal budget); had I not been sent home, my MOS would've easily sent me to Kuwait for Desert Shield/Desert Storm. That's just how it would've went. But apart from that, those 51 days of training gave me a perspective of those who served and continue to serve. I developed a healthy respect for the foot-soldier, who has no choice or latitude and cannot pick or choose; he does...and perhaps dies. He doesn't pray for war, but he does prepare for it. In earnest. A far cry from the NSDAP Deutschen Wehrmacht, the soldiers of which were sworn to blind obedience to their Führer as a god, in addition to national duty. Fanaticism. At least other soldiers had the right to conscientiously object. Very few did.

I wish you had a fairer, more-balanced perspective on the matter. You have your right to an opinion, but my opinion of your opinions is that they tend to be inflammatory, disrespectful, hit-and-run reckless. This one only quotes a Wikipedia page to vaguely support it and cites nothing else: no deeper personal insight, no other facts, nothing. Just sculpted all-or-nothing words to shame. And personally, I think I've wasted enough words in response to your post. Your words sure make it difficult to respect you.