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What the*** New York and Island Hog island??

Postby alrot » Mon Apr 16, 2007 9:17 pm

:o There was an island in 1893 and sunk by a Hurricane .. :o In New York City?

A Hurricane in NY ? :o

and was erased in Americans Memory though :o

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:1873hogInlet.jpg



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hog_Island_%28New_York%29
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Re: What the*** New York and Island Hog island

Postby WebbPA » Mon Apr 16, 2007 9:49 pm

If there were no buildings on the island and no loss of life it it is possible that the incident (1893) was forgotten.

Interesting story, though.

Edit: It is not uncommon for hurricanes to strike New York.

(Since you are not an English speaker -

"Common" - occurs often
"Uncommon" - does not occur often
"Not uncommon" - does not occur often but occurs somewhere between "common" and "uncommon"

English is "sunk", not "sinked", another word we love to use to identify foreigners.

English does not use
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Re: What the*** New York and Island Hog island

Postby dcunning30 » Mon Apr 16, 2007 10:13 pm

Reminds me of the Bodie Island lighthouse in the Chesapeake Bay.  I rode a boat by it last fall.  The lighthouse is still there, but Bodie Island is no more.
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Re: What the*** New York and Island Hog island

Postby alrot » Tue Apr 17, 2007 4:45 am

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English is "sunk", not "sinked", another word we love to use to identify foreigners.
English does not use
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Re: What the*** New York and Island Hog island

Postby Hagar » Tue Apr 17, 2007 5:01 am

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Re: What the*** New York and Island Hog island??

Postby NDSP » Tue Apr 17, 2007 6:41 pm

:o There was an island in 1893 and sunk by a Hurricane .. :o In New York City?

A Hurricane in NY ? :o

and was erased in Americans Memory though :o

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:1873hogInlet.jpg



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hog_Island_%28New_York%29


Hurricanes Hitting NYC are not exactly a common thing,  but they do happen.

I have to watch out for when the next one hits :o

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Re: What the*** New York and Island Hog island??

Postby beaky » Wed Apr 18, 2007 12:18 pm

:o There was an island in 1893 and sunk by a Hurricane .. :o In New York City?

A Hurricane in NY ? :o

and was erased in Americans Memory though :o

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:1873hogInlet.jpg



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hog_Island_%28New_York%29



NYC is a coastal city, after all... usually those storms run out of steam before they get up here, but every now and then we get slammed.

Hog Island was uninhabited at the time of that hurricane, and I think it's sort of still there; as a bar, at least. It wasn't really sunk so much as washed away, as it was probably mostly sand to begin with.


I'd heard about it before, but it was a long time ago, and not exactly a tragedy... ::)
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Re: What the*** New York and Island Hog island??

Postby murjax » Thu May 03, 2007 9:18 am

Weather or not another hurricane hits NY again, it's a good idea for them to have safety plans. First off, they need to get better windows. They need to be bulletproof windows that can fit in between the outside and the inside of the building. That way they can't be blown out or blown in. Another thing that needs to be taken into consideration are fires. A good modern idea would be to install pipes everywhere inside the building and if a fire happens, the pipes will take an anti flame liquid to the location of the fire. A very important thing in NY is transportation. The subway tunnels would need to be completly sealed off before a hurricane so that they don't get flooded. That sounds like a good idea now doesn't it?  :)
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Re: What the*** New York and Island Hog island??

Postby JSpahn » Thu May 03, 2007 1:54 pm

Weather or not another hurricane hits NY again, it's a good idea for them to have safety plans. First off, they need to get better windows. They need to be bulletproof windows that can fit in between the outside and the inside of the building. That way they can't be blown out or blown in. Another thing that needs to be taken into consideration are fires. A good modern idea would be to install pipes everywhere inside the building and if a fire happens, the pipes will take an anti flame liquid to the location of the fire. A very important thing in NY is transportation. The subway tunnels would need to be completly sealed off before a hurricane so that they don't get flooded. That sounds like a good idea now doesn't it?  :)



Good luck with that! They cannot even figure out a way to quell traffic.
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Re: What the*** New York and Island Hog island??

Postby murjax » Thu May 03, 2007 2:35 pm

[quote][quote]Weather or not another hurricane hits NY again, it's a good idea for them to have safety plans. First off, they need to get better windows. They need to be bulletproof windows that can fit in between the outside and the inside of the building. That way they can't be blown out or blown in. Another thing that needs to be taken into consideration are fires. A good modern idea would be to install pipes everywhere inside the building and if a fire happens, the pipes will take an anti flame liquid to the location of the fire. A very important thing in NY is transportation. The subway tunnels would need to be completly sealed off before a hurricane so that they don't get flooded. That sounds like a good idea now doesn't it?
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Re: What the*** New York and Island Hog island??

Postby beaky » Fri May 11, 2007 8:09 pm

Weather or not another hurricane hits NY again, it's a good idea for them to have safety plans. First off, they need to get better windows. They need to be bulletproof windows that can fit in between the outside and the inside of the building. That way they can't be blown out or blown in.

Brilliant. and who is going to pay for replacing every window in NYC?  ;D


Another thing that needs to be taken into consideration are fires. A good modern idea would be to install pipes everywhere inside the building and if a fire happens, the pipes will take an anti flame liquid to the location of the fire.


Um... they already have that; it's called a "sprinkler system".  Been a legal requirement for new construction in NYC for over 50 years, I believe... and the technology's been around longer than that.

The "anti flame" liquid is... water.  ;D




A very important thing in NY is transportation. The subway tunnels would need to be completly sealed off before a hurricane so that they don't get flooded. That sounds like a good idea now doesn't it?  :)


Right. It would only take about a week to stop all the trains and get everybody out of there before you seal the system...  ;D


Do us all a favor and don't go into civil engineering...  ;)


New York has never been hit by a storm that required evacuation, but if it ever is, I really hope I'm not around when it happens. It would create havoc... although there is plenty of roadway and RR track to move many people inland from Manhattan, all the outer boroughs and all of long Island would likely have to pass through parts of the city as well.  Not good.  :o
One can only hope there'd be sufficient notice to avoid a panic.
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Re: What the*** New York and Island Hog island??

Postby WebbPA » Fri May 11, 2007 9:05 pm

Governments learn by doing because they never take advice.

Just before Hurricane Andrew (1992) the State of Florida decided to evacuate about a million people from Homestead to Orlando.  Good idea.  Florida has a 2-3 lane turnpike that could easily be opened to an exclusively 4-6 lane northbound road.

But then the bureaucrats got involved.

They couldn't close the southbound lanes to go northbound - safety problems.

The turnpike is a toll road.  Every vehicle going north had to stop and pay toll.

Result: The turnpike was clogged beyond belief.  People slept in their cars at rest areas.

Someone kicked the bureaucrats' butts and now every time a hurricane is expected to hit South Florida (72 hours) the southbound lanes are closed and are converted to northbound.  All tolls are suspended.
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Re: What the*** New York and Island Hog island??

Postby murjax » Fri May 11, 2007 11:42 pm

Weather or not another hurricane hits NY again, it's a good idea for them to have safety plans. First off, they need to get better windows. They need to be bulletproof windows that can fit in between the outside and the inside of the building. That way they can't be blown out or blown in.

Brilliant. and who is going to pay for replacing every window in NYC?
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Re: What the*** New York and Island Hog island??

Postby murjax » Fri May 11, 2007 11:46 pm



Another thing that needs to be taken into consideration are fires. A good modern idea would be to install pipes everywhere inside the building and if a fire happens, the pipes will take an anti flame liquid to the location of the fire.


Um... they already have that; it's called a "sprinkler system".
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Re: What the*** New York and Island Hog island??

Postby murjax » Fri May 11, 2007 11:49 pm

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Do us all a favor and don't go into civil engineering...
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