The remaining few

[ozzy72]

This is well worth a read http://www.guardian.co.uk/military/stor ... 59,00.html thought provoking...

[H]

I believe that the only battle in recorded history, prior to the 20th century, that had more carnage was in Italy between Hannibal's Carthaginian army and the Romans. Even swords don't slash open the body like shrapnel but 'tis a bloody mess, either way. The planes I shoot down in simulation return for the replay; real war truly stinks. :-/
Not to forget those who were forced to fight in them.

[ozzy72]

Speaking from personal experience I hope never to see combat again. A senseless waste of young life to satisfy the egos of a few cowardly old men in high office

[Hagar]

Terrible indeed. They called WWI the 'War to End All Wars'. It seems nobody learned the lesson. I read somewhere that since the end of WWII there has been only one day without some sort of war going on in this world of ours.

[ozzy72]

That is probably true Doug Alas our political masters are now self-centered giant egos rather than people serving their country..... We are in trouble! Viva la revolution
I wonder what would happen if soldiers were sent off to war and then sat down with their so-called enemies and had a chat and a cup of tea rather than fighting... could make things interesting

[Hagar]

I wonder what would happen if soldiers were sent off to war and then sat down with their so-called enemies and had a chat and a cup of tea rather than fighting... could make things interesting

This actually happened at the unofficial Christmas Day truce in 1914. The brasshats were not amused as it was obvious the soldiers would soon find out that the enemy were ordinary men just like them & no longer have the inclination to fight each other. Things haven't  changed at all since then. If the politicians & generals had to do the fighting there would be very few wars. IMHO

[Craig.]

I find it sad that, these generals you say should be the ones fighting in these wars, are soldiers who themselves have likely served in combat, its sad because that experience hasn't taught them anything it seems. My personal opinions aside, if a few of these politicians were taken into the middle of a real warzone, none of this pre-arranged crap body guards while being 200 miles from the nearest hotspot. Send them in with a platoon to see it first hand. They certainly might change various things.

[dcunning30]

You guys sound like we can just all ignore the politicians and go hang out with al qaeda members and drink tea together and swap stories.    ::)

[myshelf]

[quote]You guys sound like we can just all ignore the politicians and go hang out with al qaeda members and drink tea together and swap stories.

[dcunning30]

maybe not, but what about the the other statement? would you really think this war would go on if bin laden would have to make his bones by leading an terrorist attack?

Yes. Even though Bin Ladin has been the focal point for years, Al Qaeda has become more than the man, it is an ideology.

[myshelf]

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Yes. Even though Bin Ladin has been the focal point for years, Al Qaeda has become more than the man, it is an ideology.

[Flt.Lt.Andrew]

PENIS IN A SWEATY CLIT!

I'm truly sorry, but this is getting way, political and way too edgy. We've seen this before, as we've seen war after war.


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P.S This should get it locked before someone gets hurt.

[Hagar]

Strange how this topic suddenly veered from the horrors of the First World War & the carnage of modern conventional warfare onto terrorism.

[Saitek]

Mark's to blame.

[ozzy72]

Well alas somebody tried to hijack this thread to promote their ignorant view of the world! Calling terrorists soldiers only legitimises them