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"Lucy"

PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 11:28 pm
by Scorpiоn
I'm reading quite a hefty volume on Barbarossa, and it mentions, but does not elaborate, on a source the Soviets relied on named only as Lucy.  Information given by this source was detailed and accurate, but the book does not go much further than to establish the fact Lucy stayed anonymous.  Has anyone heard more of this?

Re: "Lucy"

PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 5:12 am
by Hagar
Hi Scorp. I had a search round & discovered that LUCY was an intelligence network, not a person.

http://books.stonebooks.com/cgi-bin/foxweb.exe/base/subjects?1000745
Lucy spy ring
Spy network run by Rudolf Rossler in Switzerland and relaying German secrets to Moscow


There's plenty more if you spend a few minutes on a search engine.
http://intellit.muskingum.edu/russia_folder/russiawwii_folder/russiawwiispiesr-z.html
RUSSIA
World War II
The Soviet Spy Rings in Europe:
The Rote Kapelle, the Lucy Ring, & the Rote Drei

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 3:43 am
by Scorpiоn
Thanks Hagar. :)

Unfortunately, I found the topic interesting based on the fact that Lucy was an individual.  The fact that it was a group or a ring kind of takes away it's peculiarality, and thus, my interest in it.  Oh well.

Re: "Lucy"

PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 3:49 am
by Hagar
Ah well. The network was run by a man named Rudolf Rossler. Maybe you would find him interesting. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0304351296/102-2886340-3972958?v=glance
LUCY was Rudolf Rossler, a German refugee publisher living in Lucerne

Re: "Lucy"

PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 3:43 am
by Flt.Lt.Andrew
What an a$$! Why would you betray your own country in such a scurrolous manner??
Shameful behaviour, Rudolf....


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Re: "Lucy"

PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 4:26 am
by Hagar
What an a$$! Why would you betray your own country in such a scurrolous manner??
Shameful behaviour, Rudolf....

The majority of people suffering under the Nazi regime were loyal German citizens. They were not betraying their country but quite naturally opposed to the regime.

Re: "Lucy"

PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 5:32 pm
by beaky
The majority of people suffering under the Nazi regime were loyal German citizens. They were not betraying their country but quite naturally opposed to the regime.


Word up, Hagar. "My country, right or wrong" is right down there with "All's fair in love and war". Lies!  But I wonder what Rossler thought about Stalin....

Re: "Lucy"

PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 5:29 am
by Flt.Lt.Andrew
OK OK OK OK
Calm down, I'm just not into the Quisling thing....
But Hitler for Stalin???
People walked by Stalin's body to check he was dead!
(Hey, I'm not saying Hitler was good, he was evil and sick, but its a strange swap)

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Re: "Lucy"

PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 6:11 am
by Hagar
Hitler for Stalin???
People walked by Stalin's body to check he was dead!
(Hey, I'm not saying Hitler was good, he was evil and sick, but its a strange swap)

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Did you ever hear the expression "strange bedfellows"? Stalin became an ally of Britain & the US. Both Churchill & Roosevelt had to treat him as a friend. They might not have liked it personally or approved of Stalin or his regime but it was a matter of expediency. The Allies needed him. That's simple politics it's no different today. I wonder if you would see this differently if "Lucy" had worked for British or US intelligence. The victors write the history books. He would be probably be hailed as a hero. It's quite possible that anything concerning the Western front was passed to them anyway.

[quote]Word up, Hagar. "My country, right or wrong" is right down there with "All's fair in love and war". Lies!