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Posted: **Fri Sep 17, 2004 6:27 am**

Sixty years ago today, Operation Market-Garden started. Paratroppers from the United Stats 82th Airborn, 101st Airborn, and correct me if I'm wrong, British 2nd Airborn, and the 3rd armored division, went into Holland, in hopes of capturing the Rhine and ending the war by Christmas 1944.

But sadly the operation failed......................

That leads to one question: Was Market-Garden worth its risks?

I think this is Eisenhower the biggest, and perhaps the only, blunder from the war. I personaly think the stakes were just too high, and the risks were also too high. In addition, Patton's forces were moving accross Europe at a rate that would've ended the war by early 1945 anyway.

Posted: **Fri Sep 17, 2004 6:51 am**

Jeff. I think you will find that Market Garden was suggested by General Montgomery. As General Eisenhower was Supreme Allied Commander it would have to be under his approval. I think it was a risk worth taking. If it had succeeded it would have considerably shortened WWII. The operation was dogged by bad luck, bad weather & hasty planning but almost came off.

Market Garden was a combined operation in 2 parts "Market" & "Garden". All available Allied forces were involved.

The essential task of the airborne forces involved was to seize intact the bridges over the canals and rivers en route, notably those at Son, Vegel, Grave (over the River Maas) and Nijmegen (over the River Waal) and finally the Rhine road bridge at Arnhem. This part of the plan was codenamed Operation "Market".

The "Garden" part of the plan was the land offensive by the armour of Lieut-General Horrocks' XXX Corps and other elements of the 2nd Army.

Operation Market was to be carried out by the 1st Allied Airborne Army under the command of General Browning. This included

the US XVIII Airborne Corps
82nd Airborne Division
101st Airborne Division
the British 1st Airborne Corps
1st Airborne Division
1st Parachute Brigade
4th Parachute Brigade
1st Airlanding Brigade
1st Polish Independent Parachute Brigade
The Americans were to open the corridor from Eindhoven to Nijmegen, whilst the British 1st Airborne Division under Major-General R.E. Urquhart were to seize the bridge at Arnhem.

The 2nd Army was expected to reach Arnhem in 48 hrs.

http://www.nntk.net/arnhem_1944/market_garden.html

If you're interested in this subject I can recommend the book "A Bridge Too Far" by Cornelius Ryan & the film based on it. My late father-in-law who was involved in the operation thought the film was very well done. He particularly liked Edward Fox's portrayal of Lt. Gen. Brian Horrocks who was his commander.

Posted: **Fri Sep 17, 2004 8:55 am**

Those guys completely ignored that there was division of the Waffen-SS stationed in the target area. And you just can't mess with SS units without tons of additional material.

Posted: **Fri Sep 17, 2004 9:09 am**

I don't think that unit was supposed to be there. Don't forget that accurate intelligence would be difficult to get hold of. One of the twists of fate that thwarts the best laid plans of mere mortals. Call it luck if you like. This operation was hastily planned & most things that could go wrong did go wrong. For example: they sent the wrong frequency crystals with the radios which prevented communication between the units. Also, one unit was dropped several miles away from the intended drop zone. There were many more blunders. This is what happens in wartime. I've always said that the side that makes the least mistakes wins the battle.

Posted: **Fri Sep 17, 2004 11:02 am**

Market Garden was a gamble of the type that should be taken in war. Had it been successful it would have opened a hole across the Rhine and left the Allies poised to strike into the heart of Nazi Germany...and it was very nearly successful.

I've stood at the end of Arnhem bridge...kind of awe inspiring.

"We don't have the facilities to take you all prisoner. Sorry. Will there be anything else? ;D

Posted: **Fri Sep 17, 2004 12:38 pm**

Posted: **Sat Sep 18, 2004 10:50 pm**

Thanks Ozzy.

There was some mention of this a short time ago in another thread, by me (when Monty's popularity was being examined).

The Dutch Resistance gave very clear and accurate information regarding the presence of the Panzer contingent in Arnhem, but because it wasn't 'supposed' to be there, British Intelligence didn't take them seriously. In other words, they IGNORED IT.

But as Hagar points out, there is always going to be a fly in the ointment (especially if you throw on in there

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