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World War II

PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 2:26 am
by Scorpiоn
This is actually three days early, but this marks the 65th anniversary of the beginning of the second World War.  Ju 87Bs (probably B-2s) of I Gruppe/Stukageschwader 2 rained bombs on Polish airfields, beginning the Blitzkrieg, and the war itself.  Germany issues a statement that Polish forces fired upon German forces, and Germany followed likewise.  No one really cared what other countries said, because they didn't lose six years later. :P

So here we stand today, with toys with funny names, like Spitfires, Stukas and MiGs, oh my! :D

Re: World War II

PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 11:27 am
by ATI_7500
The reason for the german attack which began with a german battleship attacking polish coastal installations was a faked raid on a german radio station.
But we still have a little more than one day to go,Scorp. ;)

Re: World War II

PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 12:57 pm
by Felix/FFDS
He did preface with the "three days early"...

Re: World War II

PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 1:46 pm
by ATI_7500
Crap....

...reading a gift that should be given to everyone... :P

...silly me. :-/

Re: World War II

PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 3:34 pm
by Woodlouse2002
The reason for the german attack which began with a german battleship attacking polish coastal installations was a faked raid on a german radio station.
But we still have a little more than one day to go,Scorp. ;)

I thought it was a heavy cruiser. Germany's battleships (Bismarck and Tirpitz) hadn't been finished by the outbreak of war.

Re: World War II

PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 6:12 pm
by Felix/FFDS
I thought it was a heavy cruiser. Germany's battleships (Bismarck and Tirpitz) hadn't been finished by the outbreak of war.



Propaganda machine at work  :)

Re: World War II

PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 5:55 am
by ATI_7500
I thought it was a heavy cruiser. Germany's battleships (Bismarck and Tirpitz) hadn't been finished by the outbreak of war.


Battleship,heavy cruiser...all the same to me...it swims it is armoured,it has guns. Dot.

Re: World War II

PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 8:41 am
by Felix/FFDS

Battleship,heavy cruiser...all the same to me...it swims it is armoured,it has guns. Dot.



A couple of interesting readings are "Dreadnought" and "Castles of Steel".  I always wondered the difference between "heavy cruisers" and "battleships".

While definitions vary by era, "typically" a cruiser has battleship armament (heavy guns 12-15 inc) but less armour than a comparable battleship, making it faster than a battleship, but more prone to battledamage (and I'm thinking Beatty at Jutland here)

Re: World War II

PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 10:14 am
by Woodlouse2002
Your thinking Battle-Cruisers there Felix. A Cruiser is smaller, has smaller armament and slightly less armour so to ensure a higher top speed. HMS Suffolk (Cruiser) in WWII was armed with 8 8inch guns for her main armament and 12-16 4inch guns as secondary. HMS Hood (Battle-Cruiser) had 8 15inch guns as her main armament and 12 6 inch guns as secondary.

Basically a Battle-Cruiser is a battleship with out the armour. A cruiser is a larger and more heavily armed than a Destroyer. Basically if a cruiser was to come across a Destroyer it would stand and fight. If it came across a battleship then it would run away.

Re: World War II

PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 11:56 am
by Felix/FFDS
Your thinking Battle-Cruisers there Felix. A Cruiser is smaller, has smaller armament and slightly less armour so to ensure a higher top speed. HMS Suffolk (Cruiser) in WWII was armed with 8 8inch guns for her main armament and 12-16 4inch guns as secondary. HMS Hood (Battle-Cruiser) had 8 15inch guns as her main armament and 12 6 inch guns as secondary.

Basically a Battle-Cruiser is a battleship with out the armour. A cruiser is a larger and more heavily armed than a Destroyer. Basically if a cruiser was to come across a Destroyer it would stand and fight. If it came across a battleship then it would run away.



Right - I was thinking battlecruisers (which is what Beatty commanded at Dogger Bank and Jutland).  Thanks for the clarification.

Re: World War II

PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 4:26 pm
by Woodlouse2002
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Right - I was thinking battlecruisers (which is what Beatty commanded at Dogger Bank and Jutland).