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Shades of Dick Dastardly

PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2004 3:09 am
by ozzy72
Military officials considered sending flocks of homing pigeons armed with biological warfare agents against enemy targets, a secret report for British intelligence chiefs said.
The plan, developed by an enthusiastic wing commander immediately after the second world war, is revealed in MI5 files released today. There were also plans to train birds carrying explosives to fly into enemy searchlights.
By the end of the war conventional uses of pigeons had been rendered obsolete by radio and telephone, and the armed forces told Whitehall's Joint Intelligence Committee they would no longer pay for bird lofts. The re-evaluation is documented in three files labelled "Pigeon Policy", which record inter-departmental disputes over budgets.
To keep the birds on hand just in case, the military decided to maintain a loft in peace time. MI6 offered

Re: Shades of Dick Dastardly

PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2004 9:51 am
by ATI_7500
Pidgeons as flying bombs - those military guys can be real a$$holes!  >:(

Re: Shades of Dick Dastardly

PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2004 11:25 am
by Felix/FFDS
[quote]Pidgeons as flying bombs - those military guys can be real a$$holes!

Re: Shades of Dick Dastardly

PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2004 12:20 pm
by ozzy72
Yup Felix, the feathered b******ds frequently 'bomb' my car once I've finished washing it!
I hate pigeons >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( Anyone know where I can pick up an AA gun cheap to use in the park behind my flat? ;D

Re: Shades of Dick Dastardly

PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2004 12:57 pm
by Felix/FFDS
Yup Felix, the feathered b******ds frequently 'bomb' my car once I've finished washing it!
I hate pigeons >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( Anyone know where I can pick up an AA gun cheap to use in the park behind my flat? ;D



Helium filled balloons, with razor wire; or lifting an electrified wire mesh?

Re: Shades of Dick Dastardly

PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2004 3:02 pm
by HawkerTempest5
You know, this may just solve our over weight JSF problem. Pigeons are smaller, lighter, cheaper and can land and take off vertically, no doubt with their full 2oz war load, and from one of our toy aircraft carriers. ;)

Re: Shades of Dick Dastardly

PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2004 3:11 pm
by ozzy72
Now THAT was funny Roger ;D ;D ;D

Re: Shades of Dick Dastardly

PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2004 3:30 pm
by Felix/FFDS
This thread is getting dangerously close to getting moved to the Caf

Re: Shades of Dick Dastardly

PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2004 8:22 pm
by jimclarke
Also during WWII the U.S. military experimented in using bats with small explosives attached to them for use in starting fires in Japan.  I don't think it got beyond experiments but the thought was that most of the buildings in Japanese cities were wood and the bats would find dark places to hide til the timers ignited the explosives.  I read this in a magazine several years ago.

Jim

Re: Shades of Dick Dastardly

PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2004 10:55 am
by Smoke2much
The problem with Homing Pigeons is that they home to their home and nowhere else.  You can just imagine trying to get them into Moscow, then back to London for Arming and then released in time to win a war.

Bad idea IMHO.

Re: Shades of Dick Dastardly

PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2004 11:55 am
by Felix/FFDS
[quote]Pidgeons as flying bombs - those military guys can be real a$$holes!

Re: Shades of Dick Dastardly

PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2004 12:35 pm
by Hagar
It's always seemed a shame to me that the human race would even consider training animals to (unwittingly) sacrifice themselves for our stupid quarrels. I think we've always been quite capable of finding effective ways of sending ourselves to oblivion without their help. ::)

Re: Shades of Dick Dastardly

PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2004 10:04 am
by Meyekul
Didnt the Navy experiment with using dolphins as torpedos?  Or at least to seek out underwater mines?  Seems like I remember reading/seeing that somewhere.

Re: Shades of Dick Dastardly

PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2004 2:20 pm
by ozzy72
Yup both the US and Soviets trained dolphins to place mines on ships in port :(