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Hindenburg (Airship) Disaster

PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 10:35 pm
by Felix/FFDS
I just finished viewing on PBS a doco on the Hindenburg airship disaster (Lakeland, New Jersey, USA).

The initial findings attributed the accident to static electricity accumulated as the airship and gone between bad weather cells, which discharged and lit off the hydrogen.

Using modern forensic methods, a NASA scientist, whose specialty is hydrogen (fuels specialist) started investigating the disaster.

The first suspicion was that eyewitness accounts indicated that the fire was red in color, not the blue of hydrogen.  Also, that even as the fire was spreading from the rear towards the front, the airship maintained buoyancy for a longer time than burning off of the rear hydrogen cells would have supposed.

In the end, inspecting and researching with pieces of Hindenburg covering surviving to this day, he discovered that the fabric covering the airship was doped with a concoction of chemicals containing a significant concentration of iron oxide and powdered aluminium.  As a side note, iron oxide and powdered aluminium are key components of the solid fuel in the Shuttle's boosters.

Further support for this theory came out in the Zeppelin Company's official inquiry into the disaster.  Samples of the covering from the Graf Zeppelin and the Hindenburg were tested, under similar electrostatic discharges, and while the G. Zeppelin's covering did not burn, that of the Hindenburg, went up immediately.  This testing was done barely two months after the disaster and the report was never made public.

Essentially, the Hindenburg would have burned whether it had had helium or hydrogen ... it was doped in rocket fuel..!!

Re: Hindenburg (Airship) Disaster

PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 12:02 am
by RichieB16
Wow, thats fasanating.

Re: Hindenburg (Airship) Disaster

PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 2:17 am
by ozzy72
That is scary!!! But v.interesting. I never knew that. Learn something everyday :)

Re: Hindenburg (Airship) Disaster

PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 7:29 am
by Hagar
I've seen this documentary & read reports on the experiments. There's no doubt in my mind that the latest findings are correct. It also seems likely that the manufacturers were aware of the true cause from their own investigation following this terrible disaster. As Felix points out, the findings of their inquiry were never made public.

Re: Hindenburg (Airship) Disaster

PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 12:08 pm
by ATI_7500
Very scary.... :o

Re: Hindenburg (Airship) Disaster

PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 3:30 pm
by RichieB16
Makes you wonder what airliner designers know now and have decided not to release.

Re: Hindenburg (Airship) Disaster

PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 4:36 pm
by Hagar
Remember this was Nazi Germany in 1937. It would have suited the manufacturers & the govenment to blame the disaster on the fact they were forced to use highly inflammable hydrogen. As I understand it, most of the helium was produced in the US & difficult to get hold of. I'm not sure if this is still the case.

Re: Hindenburg (Airship) Disaster

PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 4:45 pm
by ozzy72
Richie having had a friend work as an engineer for British Aerospace the only advice I'll offer is this "DON'T get on a BAe 146"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I won't catalogue the stories I've heard, but frankly you're safer walking across a busy motorway whilst blindfolded in the middle of the night while wearing a nice array of black clothing!

Re: Hindenburg (Airship) Disaster

PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 5:13 pm
by Hagar
Richie having had a friend work as an engineer for British Aerospace the only advice I'll offer is this "DON'T get on a BAe 146"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I won't catalogue the stories I've heard, but frankly you're safer walking across a busy motorway whilst blindfolded in the middle of the night while wearing a nice array of black clothing!

Having been involved in the aircraft industry all my life I know that this is not unusual, nor does it apply only to BAe or the 146. It's never put me off flying in any type of aircraft. Flying is still by far the safest method of travel. IMHO

PS. I could tell you a few stories that would make your hair stand on end. I can almost guarantee they would put you off flying for life. :o :P ;)

Re: Hindenburg (Airship) Disaster

PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 5:25 pm
by ozzy72
Nothing would put me off flying (except maybe noticing the wings were held on with gaffer tape and the parachute pack contained someones dirty laundry!), but I worry about some of our younger members Doug ;) ;D

Skin

PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2004 5:34 pm
by Scorpiоn
This theory pretty much won me over when he (The NASA scientist) cut a piece of fabric from the Hindenburg that survived, and gave it a quick spark!

Poof!

Re: Hindenburg (Airship) Disaster

PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2004 7:30 pm
by FLYING_TRUCKER
Thanks for the info on the Hindenburg.

That is what this forum is all about. :)

Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug