Did they land on the Moon?

[Hagar]

but seriously....

i can't remember the name, but one of the astronauts obviously had severe problems keeping on his feet.
now i never did the maths, but it seemed to me he fell pretty much "earthlike", not what you'd expect of falling in 1/6 G.

I've deliberately steered clear of individual hoax theories as quite frankly I wouldn't bother reading them & most of the ones I have read are completely irrelevant & not worth repeating. I still maintain that the only time there would have been any reason to fake anything was during the first Moon landing. I have no doubt that this would have been done if necessary, purely as a last resort & only if it was thought that they could get away with it. I don't know which astronaut had problems keeping his feet or which mission this was but consider this; Someone at NASA was responsible for showing those TV images to the World. There was no CNN camera crew on the Moon waiting to record this unique historical event for the masses so we only saw what they wanted us to see. If any faking was involved it's most likely that this would have been pre-shot film footage & not transmitted live at all so there would be no need to show anything they thought dubious in any way.

[Hagar]

i think they rehearsed the EVA's pretty extensive, and maybe some of the pic and vids from those rehearsals somehow made it to the public, either accidental or on purpose.

Exactly. Not only that but these rehearsals would have been made as realistic as possible & filmed not only for the benefit of the astronauts & scientists but to test the camera equipment fitted to the moon landing vehicle. No huge film set, production crew or actors involved but all part of the normal preparations for the Moon landing.

[Woodlouse2002]

I'm amazed that after 6 pages of careful explanation of the same point by Hagar that many of you are still missing the point entirely. It just defies belief.

[RichieB16]

I'm amazed that after 6 pages of careful explanation of the same point by Hagar that many of you are still missing the point entirely. It just defies belief.

Well, I think this is one of those topics that most people simply believes what they believe and aren't willing to consider any other outside thought or idea.

[Hagar]

[quote]Well, I think this is one of those topics that most people simply believes what they believe and aren't willing to consider any other outside thought or idea.

[Rifleman]

The sole objective of the manned space program was to put a man on the Moon before the USSR, nothing more nothing less. This was so important that no effort or expense would be spared & it would involve convincing (or fooling) not only the Soviets but the whole World. If you can't see that you're missing the point.

Not to argue with you on this one Doug, but what you are saying is that Robert Goddard and Werner Von Braun, and all their esteemed colleagues were just pissing into the wind in their endeavors ?........so to speak ?
.....I believe, like you do, that each opinion is personal, but sometimes I have a bit of trouble seeing perspectives which differ so strongly from the other side...........especially when there is a very knowledgeable basis of basic aeronautics involved.........we all crawl(drive cars), then walk(fly planes), and then run(operate rockets in space)..........

.....oh, well, we all live our own daily lives.......onward and upward........

.....posted with the utmost respect for anyone who can fly a tiger moth......yes you Doug !......      ;D

..........I'm still smiling my friend ..........

[TacitBlue]

Doug isn't saying that moon landings were faked, he is saying that had Apollo 11 failed, then they would have faked a landing. This way the US (I don't say "we" because I don't work for NASA and I've never been to the moon) would still beat the USSR. I can see his point, but it's all hypothetical.

[H]

Doug isn't saying that moon landings were faked, he is saying that had Apollo 11 failed, then they would have faked a landing. This way the US (I don't say "we" because I don't work for NASA and I've never been to the moon) would still beat the USSR. I can see his point, but it's all hypothetical.

...or hypertheatrical .
Mentioning space:
http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb/ ... 1135752834      

[Flt.Lt.Andrew]

Interestingly enough, Kennedy had a speech prepared just in case something happened to the mission and he had to break the news to the nation.


A.



P.S I think a faking would be entirely plausible, had the Yanks failed in their original attempt to moon it up.

[Hagar]

[quote].....posted with the utmost respect for anyone who can fly a tiger moth......yes you Doug !......

[Hagar]

Not to argue with you on this one Doug, but what you are saying is that Robert Goddard and Werner Von Braun, and all their esteemed colleagues were just pissing into the wind in their endeavors ?........so to speak ?

At the risk of repeating myself yet again I'm not saying that, nor have I ever doubted the sincerity of Dr Wernher von Braun & his colleagues, accused them of deception or denied them credit for their considerable achievements. I have never suggested that the whole space program was faked which would be preposterous. When you're relying on a single source for evidence of any event there is always room for doubt, even more so when that source is a government agency. Propaganda is a very powerful weapon in the right hands.

[Jakemaster]

LOOK!  Know how people say the flag on the moon was blowing in the wind.  Watch this video:

http://lisar.larc.nasa.gov/MOVIES/LARGE/LV-1998-00045.mov

And heres more videos of the Apollo missions:

http://lava.larc.nasa.gov/BROWSE/apollo.html

[Hagar]

Very interesting Jake. Thanks.

[Jakemaster]

OHHHH! Are you saying, Hagar, that the footage we see may have been filmed on a set PRIOR to the landing, and they showed THAT to us instead of whatever they filmed on the moon.  So you are saying that they landed, but the film was actually 'fake'

[myshelf]

what he's saying is that they were all set up to fake a successful moon mission, and some of the stuff they filmed actually made it to the public.