Mindboggling!

[Felix/FFDS]

I was stationed a while near Ritidian Point, Guam. For the reasons you give: when the U.S. was retaking the island in WW2, it was said that a Japanese jumped off the cliff for every foot of its height (over 500') but, I must admit, I never researched the accuracy of the statement.

H

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H, It may have happened elsewhere, but the specific incident I was alluding to happened in Saipan .

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=n ... +in+Saipan

Some of the links include videos.

[H]

H, It may have happened elsewhere, but the specific incident I was alluding to happened in Saipan.

I wasn't implying that you meant Guam -- only affirming that it was the widespread Japanese propaganda for an intended effect: surrender was futile, if not foolish.

H

[dcunning30]

Sorry for ther long post.

According to my understanding, from a Japanese perspective, there were two seperated, yet converging concepts that would be cause for a set of bloodletting of the likes the world have never seen should the US invade Japan.

[dcunning30]

Wow, I actually used up the editing buffer with that post.    :o

[dcunning30]

Also as another point.

[Apex]

No argument from me that the atomic bombs saved many lives on both sides, my father's being just one of them.

[dcunning30]

I agree.

[dcunning30]

BTW, Tokko was translated as "body smashing", ie.  kamikaze

[dcunning30]

Another interesting thought is those military members who were percieved to be involved in a failure were given "opportunities" to atone for their failure.

Chuichi Nagumo was given the opportunity to atone for his failure at Midway by commanding the Saipan forces that even Combined Fleet HQ knew was, at best, a stalling operation.

[Felix/FFDS]

H, It may have happened elsewhere, but the specific incident I was alluding to happened in Saipan.

I wasn't implying that you meant Guam -- only affirming that it was the widespread Japanese propaganda for an intended effect: surrender was futile, if not foolish.

H

H - I understand.  My statement was meant to say that the specific incident to which I could point out some validation was in Saipan.  I think that the closer one got to the Home Islands, the stronger was the feeling of terror towards the invading "barbarians".

[dcunning30]

H, It may have happened elsewhere, but the specific incident I was alluding to happened in Saipan.

I wasn't implying that you meant Guam -- only affirming that it was the widespread Japanese propaganda for an intended effect: surrender was futile, if not foolish.

H

H - I understand.

[Apex]

dcunning30:

[dcunning30]

Apex, thanks for that.

I suppose even a broken clock is correct twice a day.  I just hope I learn to keep my trap shut for all the other times I don't have a leg to stand on.

[Felix/FFDS]

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I suppose even a broken clock is correct twice a day.

[H]

...but blaming Rommel for sinking the Titanic in an experimental U-boat was a leeetle too much!

A fatal shot from the ice cannon of one of his under-water tanks? :-?

8-)