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Re: WWII

Postby Flt.Lt.Andrew » Sat May 06, 2006 1:57 am

Ach! I didnt make myself clear.

What I meant was that the Catholics in Bavaria found his Nazi cult offensive- hanging Wotan symbols in the streets is a bit much for any Christian.


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P.S Wouldnt you get sick of seeing the swastika everywhere?
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Re: WWII

Postby myshelf » Sat May 06, 2006 2:13 am

P.S Wouldnt you get sick of seeing the swastika everywhere?


i would get sick of seeing it anywhere
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Re: WWII

Postby dcunning30 » Mon May 08, 2006 9:29 am

The way I see it is the NAZI's ruined the swastika.  Prior to the Nazi's rising to power, the swastika was a symbol of good luck and was a positive symbol in many cultures.

They're like "Hey, we've been using the swastika for a thousand years with no problems, then these Nazis come along and ruin it in the span of 10-15 years."
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Re: WWII

Postby Theis » Mon May 08, 2006 1:42 pm

Its quite funny too how the swastika was actually stolen by Hitler to represent the party.
The swastika has been used for over 3,000 years.
Before Hitler used it for his representation, the swastika was a symbol of life, power, sun, strength and good luck. Its was used with positive connotations. Now because of Hitler, its has become a symbol of hatred.

Originally, in European, Middle and Far Eastern cultures the symbol always faced left. In American Indian use it faced both directions as it pleased the individual using it.

The National Socialists inverted it (Going, as they were, on ancient and classical European usage). Since facing left it is a symbol of good luck and victory once inverted it becomes a symbol of misfortune and defeat.

Yet another factor Almost Schickelgruber failed to consider.....no wonder he lost. ;D ;D
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Re: WWII

Postby Felix/FFDS » Mon May 08, 2006 2:01 pm

As an aside - the stylized swastika is still in use in the insignia of Escadrille 2/4 "La Fayette" flying Mirage 2000s.
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Postby Scorpiоn » Mon May 08, 2006 6:18 pm

Its quite funny too how the swastika was actually stolen by Hitler to represent the party.
The swastika has been used for over 3,000 years.
Before Hitler used it for his representation, the swastika was a symbol of life, power, sun, strength and good luck. Its was used with positive connotations. Now because of Hitler, its has become a symbol of hatred.

Originally, in European, Middle and Far Eastern cultures the symbol always faced left. In American Indian use it faced both directions as it pleased the individual using it.

The National Socialists inverted it (Going, as they were, on ancient and classical European usage). Since facing left it is a symbol of good luck and victory once inverted it becomes a symbol of misfortune and defeat.

Yet another factor Almost Schickelgruber failed to consider.....no wonder he lost. ;D ;D

Thus, nothing has changed.  The original swastika still holds its positive meaning.  Except no one draws that one. ;) :D The only place I've seen the uber-happy swastika was on a Korean shrine map.  "Korean letters, circle, circle, line, korean letter, swastika?!?  Oh right, that's a proper swastika!"

I'll see if I can find it again.
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Re: WWII

Postby Smoke2much » Wed May 10, 2006 12:04 pm

Interestingly the correct Swastika is spinning in the opposite direction to the Nazi one.  Sadly the PC brigade seldome note the direction of your spin, they just firebomb your ass!
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Postby Scorpiоn » Sat May 13, 2006 3:48 pm

Indeed.  What gets me is people will hark on about what the meanie swastika symbolizes, yet ignore the happy swastikas symbolism.  People will believe what they wish. :P
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Re: WWII

Postby TacitBlue » Sat May 13, 2006 6:04 pm

In my experience, most people don't know that there is a happy swastika. Or they can't tell the difference between the nice one and the Nazi one.
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Postby Scorpiоn » Sat May 13, 2006 6:16 pm

Indeed.  Of course many people are historically clueless (D-Day?  Isn't that that World War I thingie?) so it's best to just avoid the topic altogether; it's not worth the trouble explaining it.
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Postby H » Sun May 14, 2006 12:16 am

...Of course many people are historically clueless...
Historcally, with the state that some people are in, they don't even know what state they're in (translate that as you will ;)). ::) 8)
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Re: WWII

Postby TacitBlue » Sun May 14, 2006 12:30 pm

*drifts further off topic*

I've noticed that, people being hostorically clueless. I remember when I was highschool this girl asked the history teacher what her report was supposed to be about and he told her "World War 2". She looked at him blankly for a good 30 seconds and said "there were two world wars?". The look on his face was a combination of  :o and  >:(. It was like if you asked Ozzy who this "Shakspere" character was.
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Postby Scorpiоn » Sun May 14, 2006 6:13 pm

It was like if you asked Ozzy who this "Shakspere" character was.

Well that's silly...  He shook spears!  Everyone knows that... ;D ::)
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Postby H » Mon May 15, 2006 2:09 pm

...and now Tacit has managed to allow Scorpion to draw the rest of us even further off of the initial topic (although Scorpion has undoubtedly defined what the first of the ancestral surname did ;))
Well that's silly...  He shook spears!  Everyone knows that... ;D ::)
As to the topic of peoples' historical ignorance, the youngest members to read this may think you're applying a nickname and we'll be hearing them talk about Shakespeare Federline. ::) 8)
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Postby Scorpiоn » Wed May 17, 2006 12:28 am

...and now Tacit has managed to allow Scorpion to draw the rest of us even further off of the initial topic (although Scorpion has undoubtedly defined what the first of the ancestral surname did ;))
As to the topic of peoples' historical ignorance, the youngest members to read this may think you're applying a nickname and we'll be hearing them talk about Shakespeare Federline. ::) 8)

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