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Re: A national disgrace

Postby ATI_7500 » Wed Mar 17, 2004 10:13 am

Basically,but what about nuclear weapons?

One bomb - one million lives.
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Re: A national disgrace

Postby Hagar » Wed Mar 17, 2004 10:37 am

Basically,but what about nuclear weapons?

One bomb - one million lives.

I had the same thought. ::)

I think Woody is referring to "conventional" warfare.
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Re: A national disgrace

Postby Woodlouse2002 » Wed Mar 17, 2004 2:02 pm

Even with nuclear bombs. It's going to take a lot of nuclear bombs to take an army the size of chinas down to the size of say the USA's.
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Re: A national disgrace

Postby jimclarke » Wed Mar 17, 2004 2:05 pm

I was wondering, does any other country in the world treat its heroes in the same way as Britain? Two classic examples are the way the men most responsible for victory in the Battle of Britain were sacked in virtual disgrace at what should have been their finest hour.

I've always believed this was due to jealousy on the part of their rivals & is a national disgrace. Depite both being eventually proved right they never received the official credit they deserved - yet as true gentlemen & loyal officers they accepted their fate without criticising others. Theirs was by no means an isolated case & there are many more examples. I'm ashamed that this was allowed to happen. :(


One situation that comes to my mind is Admiral Kimmel and General Short who were in charge in Hawaii during the Pearl Harbor raid.
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Re: A national disgrace

Postby Hagar » Wed Mar 17, 2004 2:51 pm

Very interesting Jim but like you I tend to be sceptical. I've heard similar rumours before & it's amazing what comes to light when top secret documents finally see the light of day. Many of the stories I once believed about WWII in my own country have turned out to be pure propaganda or worse. There are also all sorts of conspiracy theories still going round today. This is what makes it so difficult to unearth the truth. It's quite likely we never will in some cases as the people involved have passed away.

I was reading another theory about the disappearance of bandleader Glenn Miller only the other day & immediately dismissed it as bunkum.
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Re: A national disgrace

Postby ATI_7500 » Wed Mar 17, 2004 2:59 pm

Even with nuclear bombs. It's going to take a lot of nuclear bombs to take an army the size of chinas down to the size of say the USA's.


Ten to fifteen...
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Re: A national disgrace

Postby Woodlouse2002 » Wed Mar 17, 2004 4:02 pm


Ten to fifteen...

And when you remember that almost every country on earth now has nukes, they'll be firing them back. Which will only be about one or two before the fighting capabilities of the technoligically advanced country are destroyed. ;)
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Re: A national disgrace

Postby Hagar » Wed Mar 17, 2004 4:31 pm

And when you remember that almost every country on earth now has nukes, they'll be firing them back. Which will only be about one or two before the fighting capabilities of the technoligically advanced country are destroyed. ;)

Just hope against hope that this never happens. If it ever does we're not likely to be around to discuss these things. ::)
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Re: A national disgrace

Postby ozzy72 » Wed Mar 17, 2004 5:01 pm

Thank goodness most people grasp the concept of MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction)! I'm a little in doubt about N.Korea though, my uncle having given me some somewhat biased views of his holiday there in the early 50's... Oddly enough he liked his Chinese captors though ::)

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Re: A national disgrace

Postby Woodlouse2002 » Thu Mar 18, 2004 4:15 pm

I'm a little in doubt about N.Korea though, my uncle having given me some somewhat biased views of his holiday there in the early 50's... Oddly enough he liked his Chinese captors though ::)

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Well, am I right thinking that the Chinese did a certain amount of brain washing of POW's...
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