May 4, 1970 - Four dead in Ohio

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May 4, 1970 - Four dead in Ohio

Postby WebbPA » Mon May 03, 2010 6:26 pm

Tin soldiers and Nixon's comin'.
We're finally on our own.
This summer I hear the drummin'.
Four dead in Ohio.

Gotta get down to it.
Soldiers are gunning us down.
Should have been done long ago.
What if you knew her and
Found her dead on the ground?
How can you run when you know?


Kent State shootings

[quote]The Kent State shootings
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Re: May 4, 1970 - Four dead in Ohio

Postby Apex » Tue May 04, 2010 5:28 pm

A sad and shocking day that I will never forget.
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Re: May 4, 1970 - Four dead in Ohio

Postby Webb » Sat Oct 09, 2010 10:57 am

Kent State tape indicates altercation and pistol fire preceded National Guard shootings

KENT, Ohio -- A noisy, violent altercation and four pistol shots took place about 70 seconds before Ohio National Guardsmen opened fire on antiwar protesters at Kent State University, according to a new analysis of a 40-year-old audiotape of the event ...

"They got somebody," an observer says. "Kill him!" at least two male voices repeatedly shout, followed by sounds of a struggle and a female voice yelling, "Whack that [expletive]!" or "Hit that [expletive]!" Four distinct shots matching the acoustic signature of a .38-caliber revolver then ring out ...
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You know, this used to be a helluva good country. I don't understand what's gone wrong with it. - George Hanson, 1969

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Re: May 4, 1970 - Four dead in Ohio

Postby Apex » Sat Oct 09, 2010 12:05 pm

I read the article.
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Re: May 4, 1970 - Four dead in Ohio

Postby Webb » Sat Oct 09, 2010 8:28 pm

According to Wikipedia:

The Kent State incident forced the National Guard to re-examine its methods of crowd control. The only equipment the Guardsmen had to disperse demonstrators that day were M1 Garand rifles loaded with .30-06 FMJ ammunition, 12 Ga. pump shotguns, and bayonets, and CS gas grenades. In the years that followed, the U.S. Army began developing less lethal means of dispersing demonstrators (such as rubber bullets), and changed its crowd control and riot tactics to attempt to avoid casualties amongst the demonstrators. Many of the crowd-control changes brought on by the Kent State events are used today by police and military forces in the United States when facing similar situations, such as the 1992 Los Angeles Riots and civil disorder during the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina in 2005.

The guard were just following standard procedure of the time.
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Re: May 4, 1970 - Four dead in Ohio

Postby Apex » Tue Oct 12, 2010 2:07 pm

I figured there was a change in 'standard procedure' as a result.  Thanks for the research.
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